In My Shoes

Some of you, by no means all of you, seem to think I delete/ban comments because I ‘don’t agree with them’ and am rude or nasty to people (presumably for insufficient reason) I respond to.

Well, okay, maybe this is true. So let’s do an experiment. Here’s a comment I just got:

jnan
March 7, 2020 at 7:21 pm

Allan, be sure to get yourself checked out by a doctor, or get the vaccine .. since you are traveling and could encounter anything, anywhere … you just don’t know where it’s going to hit next.
Stay safe out there.

Now, ‘jnan’ has been here for many months and knows very well how I feel about vaccines. Here is an example of how I feel about them. It’s also an example of the time and effort I put in to warning folks about how dangerous they are. (That video, titled ‘Vaccines, Autism and Denial’, is probably a month of work, minimum.)

Here’s another one Jnan should have seen, given the time he’s been here, and commenting whenever he feels like it. 

I could include posts or excerpts of posts that say the same as the videos, but you get the point.

What I want you to do is put in the comments how you think I should respond to ‘Jnan’s comment. I need a consensus to figure out if I’m behaving badly or as I should, given the circumstances and the purpose of this forum.

I’d much appreciate your help on this. Write your comment as if you were me. 

Allan 

You have to understand that according to the evidence, if I took Jnan’s advice about getting vaccinated I’d be putting myself in danger. 

  103 comments for “In My Shoes

  1. jnan
    March 13, 2020 at 3:30 am

    Stay well and safe Allan, prayers are with you.

  2. March 12, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    I spent two days in a local hospital, hence the silence. I’m fine and will explain when I can. After 24 hours I’m still groggy from the general anesthetic; can’t write or get my thoughts together. I enjoyed reading most of the numerous, detailed comments.

    • March 12, 2020 at 11:08 pm

      Shit I hope you haven’t had a heart attack from our posts Allan :-O
      Sending you best wishes and healing spells…

      • Christiana
        March 13, 2020 at 1:25 am

        Oh man. Sending plenty of prayers your way immediately. Hope the hospital was noble and did not sneak in any flu shots.

        Re: Corona. How about this tell from the last sentence of today’s CBS news article on DIsneyland’s closing? “According to The New York Times, Disneyland has only closed three other times in history: in 1963 following the assassination of President Kennedy, in 1994 after the Northridge Earthquake and in 2001 after the September 11 attacks.” I don’t know when it was written in the NYT.

    • Chris
      March 13, 2020 at 1:17 am

      Get better soon, gringo. Best wishes.

    • Miles MacQueen
      March 13, 2020 at 1:54 am

      Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Hope the fog lifts soon.

      Eager to hear your continued thoughts on the bug. Particularly, why now? And how might it coincide with the rise of Biden.

      In the meantime – peace and love and stuff

  3. Miles MacQueen
    March 12, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    Was forwarded this email from a friend (working MD). Don’t know when it was written (probably a couple of weeks ago at this point). Thought I would share it here if anyone is interested. Makes a pretty good case for the value anonymity online –

    This is from an anonymous intensivist in Washington state caring for covid patients. My ED director forwarded this to our group. I’m estimating it is probably a week old, given that our state lab can now process more testing kits than what is mentioned in this doctor’s summary.

    This is from an intensivist at XXXX and it has some very good clinical info –
    _________________________________
    “We’ve been told not to share info, but we are all doing it anyway.
    Since COVID is now deemed endemic in the XXXX area, and to quote a reliable source, the rest of the country is just “lagging behind,” thought I’d share some relevant details, including from CDC teleconference today for COVID providers.
    – as we all assumed, it has been in community spread locally for weeks. We have seen idiopathic ARDS cases since early/mid-Feb. Retrospective testing is being done where possible. – the numbers presented in media do not reflect actual cases, obvs. Testing here only started 2/28. Our first CONFIRMED death was 2/23.
    =XXX State Lab can only run 26kits/day, though they are ramping up quickly. Despite strict criteria for testing, there is a 3d backlog at this time.
    – Negative Resp Path PCR is required before SARS2 test will be accepted. We have been running out of RP PCRs. This is unheard of, especially as most admitted resp pts get one during flu/cold season (mostly for approp iso, since RSV is contact). Goddess bless the local Children’s hospital for sending us 60 the other night. Your hospital should begin stocking up on RP PCRs now. Our Public Health dept does not expect SARS2 tests to be ample enough to d/c the neg RP PCR requirement.
    – on a related note, county lab no longer runs tests from pts not sick enough to be admitted, since dz is now endemic. Expect this will be the case elsewhere soon.
    – as of today, we have 21 pts and 11 deaths since 2/28. Not including the postmortem retrospective dx of pts who died with idiopathic ARDS the prior week. Of note, Harborview had an idiopath ARDS death 2/26. There will be more retrospective dx. – our mortality rate is skewed up (and in some cases, down) because many of our pts come from the LCCK SNF (Lifecare Care Center of Kirkland) & are elderly and severely chronically medically ill – the sort of pts who die of rhinovirus. Many of these patients’ families are opting for comfort care, as many are DNI. We have 3 such on the floor on comfort care now. Of note, those 3 pts have what would be considered mild infxn in a different cohort.
    – we are seeing pts who are young (20s), fit, no comorbidities, critically ill. It does happen. – media (including NYT) are mentioning “efforts to contain the outbreak” at the SNF.
    I’m sure you are all aware, but the US has been past containment since January, and the SNF cases aren’t an “outbreak” they’re a cluster. – thus far many pts have contacts there (esp visiting family members), but also at a local HD center and a car dealership. Others have zero identifiable contacts at all, tho I suspect many have Costco-horde connections, heh. – fortunately Evergreen has capability to turn all or half of any ward into a neg pressure zone
    Currently, all of ICU is for critically ill COVIDs, all of XXX floor medsurg for stable COVIDs and EOL care, half of PCU, half of ER. New resp-sx pts Pulmonary Clinic offshoot is open.
    – in XXXX, CDC is no longer imposing home quarantine on providers who were wearing only droplet iso PPE when intubating, suctioning, bronching, and in one case doing bloody neurosurgery on these pts in the week prior to testing starting. Because that resulted in our Stroke Center hospital no longer being able to admit LVOs or any kind of bleed. And decimated 10% of our Hospitalists, 3 of the 6 Night docs, and a PCCM. Plus it’s now endemic. Expect when it comes to your place you may initially have staff home-quarantined. Plan for this NOW. Consider wearing airborne iso PPE for aerosol-generating procedures in ANY pt in whom you suspect COVID, just to prevent the mass quarantines.
    – we ran out of N95s (thanks, Costco hoarders) and are bleaching and re-using PAPRs, which is not the manufacturer’s recommendation. Not surprised on N95s as we use mostly CAPRs anyway, but still. Supplies are en route, but your facility may wish to stock up now, esp if you expect each staff member and room to have its own PAPR/CAPR.
    – terminal cleans (inc UV light) for ER COVID rooms are taking forever, Enviro Services is overwhelmed. Bad as pts are stuck coughing in the waiting room. Rec planning now for Enviro upstaffing, or having a plan for sick pts to wait in their cars (that is not legal here, sadly).

    – CLINICAL INFO based on our cases and info from CDC conf call today with other COVID providers in US:
    – the Chinese data on 80% mildly ill, 14% hospital-ill, 6-8% critically ill are generally on the mark. Data very skewed by late and very limited testing, and the number of our elderly pts going to comfort care. – being young & healthy (zero medical problems) does not rule out becoming vented or dead – probably the time course to developing significant lower resp sx is about a week or longer (which also fits with timing of sick cases we started seeing here, after we all assumed it was endemic as of late Jan/early Feb). – based on our hospitalized cases (including the not formally diagnosed ones who are obviously COVID – it is quite clinically unique) about 1/3 have mild lower resp sx, need 1-5L NC. 1/3 are sicker, FM or NRB. 1/3 tubed with ARDS. Thus far, everyone is seeing: – nl WBC. Almost always lymphopenic, occasionally poly-predominant but with nl total WBC. Doesn’t change, even 10days in. – BAL lymphocytic despite blood lymphopenic (try not to bronch these pts; this data is from pre-testing time when we had several idiopathic ARDS cases) – fevers, often high, may be intermittent; persistently febrile, often for >10d. It isn’t the dexmed, it’s the SARS2. – low ProCalc; may be useful to check initially for later trending if later concern for VAP etc. – up AST/ALT, sometimes alk phos. Usually in 70-100 range. No fulminant hepatitis. Notably, in our small sample, higher transaminitis at admit (150-200) correlates with clinical deterioration and progression to ARDS. LFTs typically begin to bump in 2nd week of clinical course. – mild AKI (Cr NPPV. Next 12-24hrs -> vent/proned/Flolan. – interestingly, despite some needing Flolan, the hypoxia is not as refractory as with H1N1. Quite different, and quite unique. Odd enough that you’d notice and say hmmm. – thus far many are dying of cardiac arrest rather than inability to ventilate/oxygenate. – given the inevitable rapid progression to ETT once resp decompensation begins, we and other hosps, including Wuhan, are doing early intubation. Facemask is fine, but if needing HFNC or NPPV just tube them. They definitely will need a tube anyway, & no point risking the aerosols. – no MOSF. There’s the mild AST/ALT elevation, maybe a small Cr bump, but no florid failure. except cardiomyopathy. – multiple pts here have had nl EF on formal Echo or POCUS at time of admit (or in a couple of cases EF 40ish, chronically). Also nl Tpn from ED. Then they get the horrible resp failure, sans sepsis or shock. Then they turn the corner, off Flolan, supined, vent weaning, looking good, never any pressor requirement. Then over 12hrs, newly cold, clamped, multiple-pressor shock that looks cardiogenic, EF 10% or less, then either VT->VF-> dead or PEA-> asystole in less than a day. Needless to say this is awful for families who had started to have hope. – We have actually had more asystole than VT, other facilities report more VT/VF, but same time course, a few days or a week after admit, around the time they’re turning the corner. This occurs on med-surg pts too; one today who is elderly and chronically ill but baseline EF preserved, newly hypoTN overnight, EF5d. It might cause LFT bump, but interestingly seem to bump (200s-ish) for a day or 2 after starting then rapidly back to normal – suggests not a primary toxic hepatitis.
    – unfortunately, the Gilead compassionate use and trial programs require AST/ALT 30, which is fine. CDC is working with Gilead to get LFT reqs changed now that we know this is a mild viral hepatitis.
    -currently the Gilead trial is wrapping up, NIH trial still enrolling, some new trial soon to begin can’t remember where.

    – steroids are up in the air. In China usual clinical practice for all ARDS is high dose methylpred. Thus, ALL of their pts have had high dose methylpred. Some question whether this practice increases mortality.
    – it is likely that it increases seconday VAP/HAP. China has had a high rate of drug resistant GNR HAP/VAP and fungal pna in these pts, with resulting increases mortality. We have seen none, even in the earlier pts who were vented for >10d before being bronched (prior to test availability, again it is not a great idea to bronch these pts now).
    – unclear whether VAP-prevention strategies are also different, but wouldn’t think so?
    – Hong Kong is currently running an uncontrolled trial of HC 100IV Q8.
    – general consensus here (in US among docs who have cared for COVID pts) is that steroids will do more harm than good, unless needed for other indications.
    – many of our pts have COPD on ICS. Current consensus at Evergreen, after some observation & some clinical judgment, is to stop ICS if able, based on known data with other viral pneumonias and increased susceptibility to HAP. Thus far pts are tolerating that, no major issues with ventilating them that can’t be managed with vent changes. We also have quite a few on AE-COPD/asthma doses of methylpred, so will be interesting to see how they do.

    That’s all I got for now. Will be skipping the next 2 CDC COVID calls as working Nights, but will call in again next week and keep you all posted.

    Plz share info but preferably with no direct attribution as I need to remain employed”

    • Chris
      March 13, 2020 at 2:38 am

      So that’s why all assisted living facilities in the Seattle area have so many cases. Yikes.

    • jnan
      March 13, 2020 at 3:36 am

      Miles …, I really, really, really wish I understood that letter. Can you please provide some explanation???? My medical degree “is in the mail”.

      • Miles MacQueen
        March 13, 2020 at 9:42 am

        Something is making people sick and they do not really know how to treat it.

        They are very low on supplies.

        It has been circulating in the population for much longer than expected – not an outbreak but a cluster.

        Being young & healthy (zero medical problems) does not rule out becoming vented or dead.

        That’s basically what I got out of it.

  4. March 12, 2020 at 12:17 am

    I have always liked this guy’s VLOG’s – Jeff…he always has his finger on the pulse, and knows whats going on, and they are excellent. Same as Allan knows whats going on, but Jeff vlogs , not blogs (well maybe he does blog too) > https://youtu.be/yzUuLQ-9wVg

  5. Todd
    March 11, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    Another interesting take on the situation with a possible TB connection to this current event and past events.

    https://www.academia.edu/41727245/Questions_Raised_By_the_New_Coronavirus_Too_Many_Experts_Too_Little_Thought_……._By_Dr._Lawrence_Broxmeyer_MD

    Abstract
    History has a tendency to repeat itself, and pandemics/epidemics are no exception. Case in point, the common ground between the present “novel” 2019 coronavirus (AKA COVID-19), the SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) outbreaks before that, and the Great Pandemic of 1918, long ago. The present COVID-19, did not occur in a vacuum. By December of 2018, Liu et al., proclaimed tuberculosis to be an epidemic throughout China, an epidemic which still rages on. China harbors the second largest burden of tuberculosis in the world ̶ a disease which often begins with lu-like symptoms, and a disease whose bacilli are laden with RNA bacterial viruses called mycobacteriophages. Quietly, by 2016, the World Health Organization acknowledged that despite advances, the TB bacillus, which Koch was forced to refer to as “the TB virus”, is once again the deadliest pathogen in the world. Here we compare all 4 pandemics/epidemics with some surprising results and similarities.

  6. James
    March 10, 2020 at 11:32 pm

    This waps it up for me i have just watched a video on a channel on youtube called Otto Lund . A german lady commentator called Susan Burgermeister revealed that 50 thousand young germans and teenagers had bad reactions from being vaccinated for swine flu H1N1 , one poor girl now suffers from hallucinations and narcolepsy from the vaccine and that many of the 50 thousand had succomed to developing narcolepsy compliments of Bill gates Glaxo Smithkline and the dreaded UN Agency WHO.

    • Horst
      March 11, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Note the health minister, Spahn, was pretty busy last year. They tried to make the so called “organ donation” opt out. They made measles vaccination mandatory for children and certain professionals, taking effect this year, just now.

    • Chris
      March 13, 2020 at 1:52 am

      Hallucinations and narcolepsy from being vaccinated? Sounds like a brain tumor or something. How, exactly, did they determine that it was caused by a vaccine? Correlation vs causation. Just because it might have happened right after the vaccination doesn’t mean it was caused by the vaccination. It sounds like this person is the only person with this apparent reaction, so it is much more statistically probable that something else caused it. And where are those 50,000 children now? Who is keeping them all silent? How many children was there in Germany? This link claims 13 million children were in Germany in 2018
      https://www.deutschland.de/en/topic/life/how-children-live-in-germany-the-most-important-facts

      If there are 13 million children, and 50,000 have a “bad reaction”, that is
      0.38461538461538% of the children. So how, exactly, did they determine that the vaccination caused the “reaction?”

      Everyone stay safe.

  7. Todd
    March 10, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    The PTB have unlimited resources: money, material, peoples (many, many people) of all nations under their belts under control, etc… you name it, they got it. Given that, I’ll propose a hypothetical situation based on Rapopport’s idea of a localized chemical attack made to look like a virus.

    Take Rapopport’s idea and put it on steroids. Make the attacks global and time the outbreaks to make it look like a virus is spreading using [black ops, of course] chemicals or something we cannot see, hear, or smell and possibly coordinate with 5G (I don’t know, just thinking aloud).

    Given the staged Moon Landings, the 911 (no real planes – most truthers unfortunately still believe in them – could a plane be considered a virus in this case, maybe?) Media Freak Show’s pyrotechnics with real buildings come tumbling down, murdering JFK, RFK, MLK, the too numerous to list constant worldwide false flags to take guns and change laws or go to war. I see this as no different. There is no limit to their debauchery.

    Per Rapopport, we don’t really know what was originally isolated, if indeed there really was a virus. How was it isolated, who isolated it. Who created the tests, etc…If the tests are faulty or made to look like a real bug, how would we know for sure.

    The front line medical personnel will simply see victims coming in with symptoms of something and send the tests off somewhere. Whoever controls the centralized testing controls the outcome of the tests (or if the test itself is fraudulent, then the lab testing will not know and simply pass on the fraudulent results) – similar as who controls the elections are the ones counting the votes? Doctors blindly trust these results from labs, the CDC and WHO as easily as a clock strikes each minute of every day. All doctors and those around them will assume this thing to be real. Non the wiser.

    Could the above explain the various complexities of this issue we see today? Maybe.

    In the meantime, I did place my larger order for my emergency food last week, got more basic supplies than normal, stocked up on Vit. C, Rosemary, and other items, etc.. from Joachim info… Just in case.

    And as Allan pointed out, we are over due for something. This certainly is something as the result of all this (whether real or somewhat fabricated to make it look real for those with boots on the ground) we will (and ARE – as the local laws are now saying in Calif. no crowds over 1000 can come together) be losing more freedoms and I fear forced vaccinations are around the corner just to live, work or travel in the ‘system’ that the PTB’s are managing.

    But at this time, I have more fear of governmental laws, rules and forced (hope not) vaccinations around the corner than I do of this ‘bug’. More urgently, I’m concerned for the potential for store, food and shop closures. Very pissed off here and hope we don’t get fucked too much.

    Peace everyone

    • Joki
      March 10, 2020 at 9:54 pm

      What you just wrote is nearly a perfect rephrasing of a comment I wote a few days ago that was never posted.

      The testing process itself is of great importance. No nurse is rushing a sample to a lab, taking a seat at a centrifuge, isolating viral tissue, applying a reagent and looking for antibodies. I’d venture to say that no Doctor is doing so either. As you say, all of those people rely on the results from elsewhere.

      But even the people doing the actual testing could be fooled, in that they rely on the reagent supplied to them for the testing. The reagent can be created to trigger a “positive” result from a myriad of things. Without knowing who designed the reagent for this virus, and how it was created, I don’t see how I can ever know exactly what is being discovered with such a test. And if there now exists some quick-method “swab” test which gives results in a much shorter time, nothing much changes with the above analysis. No nurse administering such a test truly knows what he/she is discovering with a “positive”. All they’d know is that the test says the person has what the test is intended to look for, whatever that may be.

      • Todd
        March 10, 2020 at 11:05 pm

        Yep, testing is critical.

        If you post comments here with more than 1 URL, it will be held in a moderated state until Allan releases it. Not sure if you did that or not, but thought of it when I read it.

        • Joki
          March 11, 2020 at 12:16 am

          That is likely the reason. It had numerous source links in it. It’s irrelevant at this point, however, because you’ve just related the central thesis anyway. Cheers!

          • Chris
            March 13, 2020 at 1:55 am

            I think posts that only contain a link are blocked, too.

  8. March 10, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    Hey, Jnan. I don’t want to assume that your vaccine comment is just thrown in to rile me but you should know my feelings on that subject by now. For the record, I’m not a Luddite. I’m someone who likes to think for myself, so when I hear people saying what amounts to “Move along. Nothing to see here.”, I’m the sort of person who likes to have the option to ask “Cui bono?”, and question their motives. While the vaccine industry and most public health organizations insist vaccines are universally safe and effective and that the science on the matter is “settled”, much of the actual data tells a very different story. Several large corporations (that, by their own admission, have a business model that does not want to cure people) have a massive collection of products that are known to damage and kill a huge number of people each year. Vaccines are just one example of a family of products that sound like they’re benefitting society but, on closer examination, can be seen to be causing serious health issues. To give you just one example, GlaxoSmithKline’s antimalarial vaccine Mosquirix was found to increase all-cause mortality by 24%. In Phase 3 trials, Mosquirix increased the risk of meningitis 10 fold, as well as the risk for cerebral malaria, and doubled female all-cause mortality. The WHO is now administering this vaccine in three African countries, without informing the recipients of the proven downside(s), claiming that their consent is “implied”!

    • March 10, 2020 at 7:06 pm

      And what blows me away is , they tip you upside down to empty your pockets before you die.
      No.1 cause of bankruptcy in the US is – a mountain of medical bills.
      Yes, the main thing to take home and remember is – > Their business DOES NOT want to cure people. They actually want them unhealthy, in every way shape & form.

  9. Miles MacQueen
    March 10, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    For everyone who has dismissed this as just a hoax, maybe read this from a doctor on the front lines in Italy

    https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    • March 10, 2020 at 8:08 pm

      And people aren’t exactly dying like flies are they.
      And I have said it before, it’s the SAME flu/BRONCHITIS bug , that even hit HERE (N.Z) in vast numbers , about 2 years ago….pretty much EVERYONE I know got it, in various intensities.
      EVERYONE i know pulled through it, and are alive and well today.
      It gave my 80 year old mother a touch of pneumonia. Today she is fit and well at nearly 82.

      Hey, why don’t these Doctors ever give a mention to self help remedies??? (plenty of VITAMIN C, elderberry & zinc, olive leaf extract etc….my 2 faves > COLLIODAL SILVER & CELERY JUICE) ….as well as the obvious staying at home. WHY don’t they?.
      My colloidal Silver protected me , but the COUGH was largely C.S resistant. About 8 days of 1 big drink (500-600cc) of Celery juice in the morning on an empty tummy, knocked that on the head.
      Now, what we seem to have going on is a sudden dumping of extra cases of this flu/bronchitis. And it seems to be caused/stirred up by 5G doesn’t it.

      • March 10, 2020 at 8:31 pm

        ….I forgot to mention – KILL the white sugar out of your diet as much as possible…that addictive shit is the No.1 food poison in the world, and it lowers your immune system hugely.

      • March 10, 2020 at 9:16 pm

        Surprize surprize, Milan in Northern Italy is their (1st? I think) 5G city.

        It seems 5G = Bad.

    • Joki
      March 10, 2020 at 9:44 pm

      Clearly there are sick people. I’ve never doubted, personally, that there are sick people.

      I *question* what they’re actually sick with, for a number of reasons. And to a degree I question the reported number of sick people. But that people are ill seems obvious.

      The post you linked mentions the writer taking “a swab” from their first ever patient, and waiting for the results. But my understanding of such tests as usually administered in hospitals is that they can *only* confirm that there is some kind of virus. A swab test will not tell you *which* virus is present. Only a more sophisticated form of testing utilizing a reagent can do that. The post makes no mention of such testing, though.

      Has such a swab test been created? I’d be interested to learn how it’s alleged to work.

      The post is translated from the Italian, which makes analyzing it for truth more difficult. A native English speaker, for instance, would raise a red flag for me were they to stutter over the pronoun “I”, or were they to suddenly change the tense of their statement with no apparent reason, as in from “I went around the corner” to “and now I see that…” Or changing from I to We in their speech without apparent justification. There are a lot of things that I typically look for, but when the speech was given in a language I don’t speak I have to try to take that into account.

      That caveat put forward, to me the post reads mainly as an attempt to elicit emotion, namely fear. The writer talks about not seeing his son for weeks , but only being able to look at photos of him “between tears”. He talks about a “surreal silence and emptiness” that *we* “did not understand”, marking his first change from I to we with no justification that I can see. I expect him to speak for himself, and he did so up to that point, then switched to “we”. He then speaks of “waiting for a war” and reports the war “literally explod[ing]” and so on. He changes tense toward the end of the article with “the emergency room is collapsing” etc. All these things make me feel he might be attempting to create an emotional response rather than simply offer information.

      He says that within the last week hospitalizations have multiplied “up to a rate of 15-20” per day, which would indicate that no more than 140 people have been hospitalized in that week. He doesn’t tell us how many hospitalizations are normally experienced for the flu in a similar timeframe. Has his hospital truly been overwhelmed by 140 unexpected in-patients? I cannot say.

      One of the first comments asks this very question. “What’s your current patient load vs what it was pre-COVID? ”

      I’ve not found a post in which anyone attempts to answer that question. It’s a damn good question, in my opinion, but it appears to be completely ignored. Something is clearly happening, but I’m afraid that post doesn’t make it any clearer exactly what that is, at least not for me. I have far more questions post-read than I did pre-read.

      As an aside, has anyone besides myself noticed that a great number of articles relating to the virus only use the term “coronavirus” without ever specifying a “covid-19”? I’m talking about articles saying things like such-and-such town confirms first case of coronavirus. I found dozens of examples last night and it puzzled me. The conspiracy-inclined part of me wondered if it wasn’t a form of plausible deniability. “We never actually *said* it was covid-19, did we?” Perhaps I make too much of that, though.

      Thanks for the link. It was an interesting read.

      • Todd
        March 10, 2020 at 11:01 pm

        Good analysis and came to the same conclusion. Lots of emotion with lacking critical details.

        I see both terms of this ‘bug’ used interchangeably even within the same article. Not sure it means anything but is interesting nonetheless. Of all the articles I’ve seen in MSM, details of deaths are extremely lacking.

      • Miles MacQueen
        March 11, 2020 at 12:14 am

        Thanks for the analysis, that was a better read.

      • Joki
        March 11, 2020 at 12:33 am

        I’m no expert in analyzing people’s statements. Purely a layman. Take what I said with however many grains of salt you feel are justified.

        I apologize to you, Allan, for not being a kind guest and introducing myself before opening my mouth. I’m sorry. It was rude, anonymous or not.

        I’m here because I enjoy your writing. I think you have a clear, engaging style and I find a lot of value in discussing the same things you seem to enjoy discussing. I do not agree with every conclusion you’ve come to in your musings. Then again, I don’t agree with every conclusion I’ve ever had on my own. Agreement isn’t a necessity, but civility is, and I failed in that regard. Please forgive me for the offense.

        I’m male, caucasian, never graduated high school (though I did obtain the absurdly simple GED), attended less than 2 years of a community college before dropping out. I’ve been married twice, and have one child. Occupation-wise I’ve spent most of my years doing “blue collar” work as an electrician, and later taught electrical courses in my home state. I am and always have been a voracious reader. I’m very interested in language and its development, symbolism and how the two intertwine.

        That constitutes my belated introduction. I hope it didn’t come too late.

        Cheers o/

  10. DSKlausler
    March 10, 2020 at 10:44 am

    jnan:

    Vaccines are a money-making health nightmare and a fraud; most M.D.s are grossly misinformed and paid representatives of drug companies. Let me know if you honestly want references to the truth.

    Allan

    • jnan
      March 11, 2020 at 9:51 pm

      Did anyone read my apology ? I pointedly said, “the vaccine jab was bad”, I know what vaccines are all about, and agree with Allan on that point.
      I don’t mind being called on the carpet for making a poorly thought out and ill-advised comment (deserved) … but, please .. asked and answered. Was my answer/apology insufficient? Like the rest of you, just expressing an “opinion” for whatever it is or isn’t worth. Not exactly high crimes and misdemeanors …..

  11. Horst
    March 10, 2020 at 9:03 am

    According to a Swiss New Age guru I follow, all is necessary for insight. We are not supposed to save the world. That comment has made us think too. Don’t feed the trolls…

  12. mike berger
    March 9, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    “Hi Jnan

    Thanks for thinking of me. It is a jungle out there. Wishing you the best as well. Alan”

    Not your style Alan, but think it’s nice to recognize others good intent but not necessarily follow their prescription.

    Cashew Hill Mike 🙂

  13. Joki
    March 9, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    “I intend to stay safe out there, in here, and everywhere in-between. To that end: I’ll be refusing your suggestion of vaccination.”

  14. William
    March 9, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Tell him, ‘thanks for your concern, but I’m not really a vaccine guy’.

  15. Kevin Ryan
    March 9, 2020 at 3:33 pm

    Allan, I, for one, applaud any action you take to minimize the less than helpful verbiage I must wade through to get to the heart of yours and your audiences thoughts on the alternative possibilities in play in the world around us.

    One question for your consideration, is colloidal silver the virus fighter I am hearing it is? I know Vitamin C, zinc and elderberry are supplements to be considered at this time whereas CS sounds like it could be the savior that no one dare mention cause you can make it yourself.

    • March 9, 2020 at 10:48 pm

      Yes, a good one. I think he’s gotten the message, but my post wasn’t really aimed at Jnan. It was more a ‘whaddya think’ sort of thing. I have a lot of comments to read (been driving, etc.), but the irony is that I wanted to make the point that when people come up with unhelpful comments, it’s distracting and a waste of time for everyone. I don’t know where to draw the line between deletable and just iffy. If I delete a comment b/c I know it’s just flat wrong and my post (or someone else) has proved that, and if the post is long and distracting… Ya know?

    • March 9, 2020 at 10:51 pm

      I suspect CS is good for you, based on people I trust telling me so, but I don’t have direct experience. (And yes, it would be nice to have less off-subject verbiage, but some of it is worthwhile, so what to do? If someone keeps doing it, though, I’ll step in.)

  16. Miles MacQueen
    March 9, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    I, for one, am going to miss this blog, and this forum, if it should go away.

    I can only imagine the frustration of putting your heart and soul (and dwindling financial resources) into something only to see no new subscribers and whatever ridiculousness this is currently running amok in his comments section.

    Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for different results comes to mind…

    Anyone else care to show the man some love before we inadvertently push him into madness?

    Most of you won’t even attach your real name to your fucking comments. Try and imagine how difficult it is to put your life out there on this blog the way Allan has.

    • DSKlausler
      March 9, 2020 at 2:09 pm

      Miles:

      I agree with what you have said here, but differ on the real-name topic. I do use mine, but can easily accept why SOME others may not. Picture yourself employed by a nitpicking, know-it-all, grossly misinformed, do-gooder company… maybe even privately owned and operated (VERY common where I am located). You’d be shit-canned in a minute if that same company saw your true sentiments of the HTWRW shown in a gewgle search..

      • Miles MacQueen
        March 9, 2020 at 2:14 pm

        Fair enough. That wasn’t really meant as a challenge to put your name out there, rather it was more – imagine what it must be like for Allan.

        But, if we are correct, and the endgame is afoot, having your name show up in a web search is going to be the least of your worries…

        • Miles MacQueen
          March 9, 2020 at 2:23 pm

          You know what? I take that back. That is a challenge. Maybe put yourself out there or shut up.

          When are you going to draw a line in the sand and stand up for yourself and the rest of humanity?

          If you can’t, at the very least, admit to, and stand up for, your own words then you are clearly part of the problem.

          • DSKlausler
            March 9, 2020 at 2:48 pm

            Nope, I am going to disagree… you can voice an opinion, and have it heard, without severing all connections. You can state your opinion in such a way as to demonstrate that you ARE in fact human, regardless of the anonymous nature of the owner. I truly hate big business, big EVERYTHING, but I do sympathize, begrudgingly, that some only have that option for employment. For those to say ANYTHING, is an accomplishment… I now [mostly] leave them alone.

        • March 9, 2020 at 10:52 pm

          Good points on both sides. I love that.

      • March 9, 2020 at 7:16 pm

        Absolutely correct here DSKlausler. And I have heard many stories of folks being threatened – or fired from their jobs, because they blew the whistle on corruption.
        One person I know direct, because I am related to them, spoke out about the shambles in the health system he works in, and got in very hot water….held onto his job by the skin of his teeth.
        Buggered if I am using my full name, anyone could find out where I live and cause mischief. Max Igan (for one) is right to use a fake name.

        • March 9, 2020 at 10:53 pm

          Just a ‘FYI’: Max Igan is almost certainly one of them.

          • March 9, 2020 at 11:40 pm

            Yes, but there is a mixture of good & right, and bad and wrong with Max.
            Ya have to sift the wheat from the chaff with him.
            He brilliantly alerted many of us, of exactly how the Banksters operate, a good 10 years ago.
            “Money” printed out of thin air (at no cost), and lent out demanding INTEREST – by force.
            The money men (Banksters) are behind every deception and rotten trick on this planet Earth…including this latest hatchet job.

          • March 10, 2020 at 12:01 am

            ….And I am still trying to figure out if Max’s nose is real or a clever disguise 😀

    • Joki
      March 9, 2020 at 6:56 pm

      Can I ask what use my actual name would be to you?

      The only way it could be useful is if you actually used it, i.e. did a search on my name. But…why? Are you in the habit of researching the names of every commenter you encounter on the web, or is it just here that you would like to remove all anonymity? Do you judge comments based on their author, or on the words of the comments themselves, or something else entirely? And is it all comments you seek to judge in such a way, or only certain comments?

      I don’t imagine you rush to confirm a statement like “the sky is blue”, for instance. Is it safe to say that, of those statements for which you accept the “truth” of them immediately, you don’t care who said them? And is it safe to say that, of those statements which you don’t accept as “truth”, you’re concerned with identifying who presents them?

      Please understand that I’m not trying to antagonize you. I don’t even know you. I apparently do not think in the same way you seem to think, and that’s what interests me. I read the same comments you do, yet I’m not bothered that many of them are anonymous. The burden of investigation is always going to lie with myself, regardless of the source of the information I’m investigating.

      If I place the source before the information in importance then I’m doing myself a disservice. Knowledge of the source may help to determine the *reason* for the information being offered, in some cases, but that will only happen after I’ve made a determination as to whether the information is genuine or not. If Rush Limbaugh says “the sky is blue”, I have no argument with him, and the knowledge that such a statement has come from Limbaugh will not cause me to question the color of the sky, even though I think he’s a compulsive liar.

      Likewise, if Rush predicts that Trump will win re-election in November and lays out his evidence for it, I cannot logically dismiss his evidence simply because it came from the mouth of a compulsive liar. Once I’ve determined to my own satisfaction that his evidence is truthful or it is not, only *then* can I attempt to fathom the reason he may have said those things. So again, it’s only after I’ve done the “heavy lifting” of evaluation that the actual speaker has any significance at all.

      It may be true that, if the current situation is as the PTB would have us believe, a google search on my name would rank among the least of my worries. But what an enormous “if”! The risks must outweigh the benefits, no? The benefit to you would be real names to investigate. The benefit to me would be… nothing. There is no risk for you in me using my real name. There is the potential for great risk to me if I were to do so.

      Further, is there any reason I couldn’t extend your logic to any number of other things the PTB would have me believe? The world is, according to them, heating up to an alarming degree, and if the more rabid proponents are to be believe the human race may be facing extinction. That seems to be even more dire of a prediction than the one currently touted regarding the virus. Should I give up on anonymity due to that? Due to the “fact” that we’re all doomed anyway, and therefore anonymity should be the least of my worries?

      How about all those nukes allegedly residing just under our feet, threatening to wipe out all humanity? What’s the point of remaining anonymous when at any moment, literally, (according to the PTB), we could all be wiped out in a fiery cloud of death? In the event of nuclear war a google search on my name would be the least of my worries, I agree, but what an enormous if.

      Even if I believed that everything currently reported in the media as “truth” is true, still it would be no argument against anonymity, for while it may be true that a google search would be the least of my worries in an “endgame” scenario, it’s equally true that bothering to do a google search on me should be the least of *your* worries at such a time.

      • Miles MacQueen
        March 9, 2020 at 7:46 pm

        Yeah, I actually wish I would have given half the thought and consideration to my original comment as you did to this response.

        I regretted that as soon as I posted it. Just feeling a little bit frustrated (and nervous) here.

        All apologies, as you were

        • March 9, 2020 at 11:05 pm

          I don’t think an apology is in order, notwithstanding that some good points were made. But for every point he/she made I could think of a valid opposing come back. If one wants to pick apart the anonymity question, there’s plenty to say. I’m not anonymous partially to set an example, mostly re the ‘fear of repercussions’ reason for it. Imagine if, say, Thomas Paine had written ‘Common Sense’ anonymously. Not a good example? I dunno, to me it sounds applicable to our current situation.

          Or think of the reasoning behind John Hancock’s signing his name in extra large letters, sort of the extreme opposite of anonymity. Here’s a guy whose name has lived on as colloquialism…

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