A Question for ‘Miles Mathis,’ Part Two

I wrapped up a recent post by claiming that I know more about HTWRW than almost anyone on the planet and no one called me on it. I dunno what to make of this. Either you guys are not really paying attention, or (as a group) you agree that I’m that… smart.

Since the context was my attempt to feel ‘successful’ in life, even considering my situation as ‘homeless’ and close to being broke, financially, maybe you guys just didn’t want to embarrass me by pointing out the sad state of my life.

This has distracted me to the point where I want to explain myself, not only what I really mean, but why I’m pretty sure my braggadocio is well-earned. (This in spite of the inarguable fact that in some sense I’m not as ‘smart’ as I was a decade ago.)dolly

So I’m going to wrap up this Miles Mathis matter rather more succinctly than I probably should: MM’s recent claim that the space shuttle program was ‘fake’ is so loaded with implications – not only about the nature of ‘space’ and the lies we’ve been subjected to about it, but about the agenda behind those lies – that by not digging deeper into the matter I’m letting slide a multi-layered aspect of HTWRW.

‘Eyewitnesses’ was the hint I gave about my problem with MM’s ‘thinking,’ but as you’ll see in my brief comments, there isn’t anything about his essay that passes any sort of sniff test.

Here we go:

The Space Shuttle Program was a Fake

by Miles Mathis

First published June 30, 2019

The Mandela Effect project is now really blowing up in their faces, since the last thing they wanted me (or anyone else) to do is look closely at the Space Shuttle program. ANYONE WHO MANAGED TO GET THROUGH MM’S ESSAY ON THE ME CAN SIMPLY GO TO THIS VIDEO I DID ON THE SUBJECT. But by including Moonraker in their list of Mandela Effects, they led me into this one themselves. In researching my recent paper on that, I had to go to Youtube and watch the official theatrical trailer from 1979. And of course that reminded me that this Bond film was made to sell the Space Shuttle program going online in those years. So one fraud keyed me into another. SINCE THE ME IS A TRUE INIGMA AND NOT A GOVERNMENT PSY OP, THIS LAST SENTENCE IS PURE STRAW MAN. (IF MM CARES TO DISAGREE HE CAN START BY EXPLAINING HOW ‘SEX IN THE CITY’ SUDDENLY BECAME ‘AND THE CITY,’ AS REFLECTED IN THE ABOVE VIDEO.)

shuttleI have no intention of showing that Space Shuttles never existed, or only existed as holograms or something, from a parallel universe. THIS SENTENCE IS A REAL HOWLER: AS WE’LL SEE, FOR THE SHUTTLE TO BE ‘FAKE’ (WHICH IS IN HIS TITLE), THE SHUTTLE PRETTY MUCH HAS TO BE ‘HOLOGRAMS’… OR SOMETHING. That is not what I mean by fake. AHHH, THE HEART OF THE MATTER. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ‘FAKE,’ MILES? The planes certainly existed: I saw one being carted around on a 747 in Texas back in the 1980s. What I mean is that the planes were another massive fraud upon the taxpayers, doing nothing taxpayers wished to see done, little or nothing that needed to be done, and few or none of the things we are told they did. NOTICE HOW VAGUE HE IS HERE. HOW DOES HE KNOW WHAT THE TAXPAYERS ‘WISHED TO SEE DONE’ OR ‘WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE’. They were supposed to help launch various satellites, but we now launch satellites quite easily without them, and much more cheaply. Each shuttle launch cost almost $2 billion in today’s dollars, which is no bargain. IT’S ‘NO BARGAIN’? DOES THAT MAKE IT ‘FAKE’? Over $200 billion was spent on the program over three decades, and what do we have to show for it? Some museum pieces. A handful of chubby planes that never got out of LEO (Low Earth Orbit) and that haven’t morphed into more useful tech. WAIT, HOLD ON! MILES IS TELLING US HERE THAT THE SHUTTLE DID GET INTO ORBIT (LOW OR HIGH, IT GOT INTO ORBIT, ACCORDING TO MILES). HE SAW IT WITH HIS OWN EYES AND IT GOT INTO ORBIT, SO HOW WAS IT ‘FAKE’?

MILES GOES TO GREAT LENGTHS TO SHOW US THAT THE SHUTTLE IMAGERY IS FAKE, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY TELLING US THAT IT DID GO INTO ORBIT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. (KEEP IN MIND THAT I’M NOT SAYING IT WENT INTO ORBIT, MILES IS.)

IF IT WENT INTO ORBIT, HOW DID IT GET THERE? MUST’VE BEEN… LAUNCHED INTO ORBIT, LIKE THE (FAKE) IMAGERY INDICATES.

OR IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY TO GET INTO ORBIT, MILES?shuttle2

ANOTHER WAY TO PHRASE IT: WHY WOULD THEY FAKE THE IMAGERY IF THE THING DID GO INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT?

AGAIN: I’M NOT MAKING CLAIMS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER RE THE SHUTTLE. I’M ONLY POINTING OUT THE PROBLEMS IN MM’S VERSION OF CRITICAL THOUGHT.

We now know that the Apollo program was an even more massive fraud, and that no one ever went to the Moon. That is what I would call common knowledge, although the governors wish it weren’t, and pretend it isn’t so. They are still trying to sell it, but have very few buyers outside of their government, university, and military hires. ADDING THE APOLLO FRAUD HERE WOULD BE OKAY IF HE WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT THE SHUTTLE DID NOT DO WHAT IT WAS BUILT FOR (GO INTO ORBIT), BUT HE’S TELLING US THAT IT DID GO INTO ORBIT. THAT IT WAS NOT COST EFFICIENT DOES NOT MAKE IT ‘FAKE.’ IF THIS WERE THE CRITERION FOR ‘FAKE’ THEN… SAY… OUR HIGHWAY SYSTEM WOULD BE ‘FAKE’.

We also know the more recent SpaceX launches are fraudulent. They are so poorly faked even school children can see the seams. HERE I SUSPECT THAT MILES IS REFERRING TO ME (CALLING ME A SCHOOL KID), SINCE ASIDE FROM FLAT EARTHERS, NO ONE ELSE HAS EXPOSED THE SPACEX FRAUD. They have rockets flying backwards and landing on tiny spots in the ocean, while paid crowds of college students, meth heads, and gangbangers cheer and high-five. HERE’S WHERE MILES’S MISDIRECTION/OUTRIGHT DECEIT IS MOST OBVIOUS, AND IT APPLIES TO HIS ‘SHUTTLE FAKE’ AND ‘SPACEX FAKE’ CLAIMS. HE IS IGNORING THE POINT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE FOR OVER A YEAR. NOT ONLY IGNORING IT, BUT MISDIRECTING US FROM IT.

EYEWITNESSES. BOTH THE SHUTTLE AND THE SPACEX LAUNCHES INVOLVED THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS, OF EYEWITNESSES, INCLUDING SCADS OF ‘AMATEUR’ FOOTAGE, WHICH CAN BE SEEN ON YOUTUBE AND ELSEWHERE.

YES, MILES, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO LAND A BOOSTER FROM SPACE BACKWARDS ONTO A SMALL SPOT IN THE OCEAN (OR ON LAND): THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VERIFYING THIS TRUTH I’VE BEEN YELLING ABOUT FOR OVER A YEAR.

IS MILES SAYING THAT THE THOUSANDS OF EYEWITNESSES (OF THE SHUTTLE AND SPACEX MISSIONS) WERE ALL PAID GOVERNMENT STOOGES (paid crowds of college students, meth heads, and gangbangers…) YEP, I BELIEVE HE IS. IN HIS MANDELA EFFECT DOOZIE HE CLAIMS THAT THE SPOOKS BREAK INTO HOUSES WHERE VHS TAPES OF MOONRAKER (WITH DOLLY’S BRACES) ARE LURKING AND SWITCHES THEM WITH ALTERED TAPES! AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF THE ME MOVIES (‘LUKE, I AM YOUR FATHER,’ ‘LIFE IS LIKE A BOX OF…’ ETC., ETC.)

shuttle3THE PSY OP THAT CALLS ITSELF ‘MILES MATHIS’ HAS NOW GOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT POSITS PURE ABSURDITY, ASKS ITSELF IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, AND ANSWERS, ‘YEP.’ GO LOOK AT THE MANDELA ESSAY:

‘So am I saying the CIA/MI5/Hollywood has altered all copies of Moonraker they could find? Yep. Am I saying that the spooks are in control of every copy of Moonraker… Yep.’ OTHERWISE – IF THEY DIDN’T GRAB EVERY COPY, WE ALL WOULD HAVE SEEN THE DOLLY’S BRACES VERSION (THE ‘ORIGINAL’) ON YOUTUBE.

POINT BEING: THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAIN THE LAUNCH EYEWITNESSES IS IF THE LAUNCHES WERE… WAIT FOR IT… HOW DID MILES PUT IT… ‘HOLOGRAMS OR SOMETHING.’

BUT HE’S NOT SAYING THIS! HE’S DENYING IT. THIS IS HOW MIND CONTROL WORKS.

Again: There is a lot more to ‘Mile’s Mathis’s’ essay but the above says everything ‘important.’ The rest is just more ‘evidence’ that the shuttle imagery is questionable.

Addendum: You have to actually picture what MM is telling us. Picture the tens of thousands of folks on the beaches of Florida, on their blankets, under their umbrellas, and so forth, waiting for a shuttle or Spacex launch. Now picture the spooks doling out cash, telling them to claim they saw… whatever… and getting them to sign NDA’s and threatening their kids and dogs if they spill the beans about… all this.

Really. This is how it must have gone, right? Either that or Miles’s bosses have perfected the art/science of holograms (or ‘something’) to the point where we literally can no longer believe our own senses. It’s one or the other, no?

Allan

I guess I wasn’t actually succinct here. I got a little carried away. This happens when I’m lied to on the level of a ‘Miles Mathis.’

In my next post I will try to explain why I think I know more about HTWRW than almost anyone else… on the planet.

  40 comments for “A Question for ‘Miles Mathis,’ Part Two

  1. drud
    July 27, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    If it’s impossible to land rockets backwards you shouldn’t just single out Spacex. There are other companies and a kid with a model rocket doing so in videos I linked to earlier, that you are just ignoring. If they are also fraudulent you must also include them and point out the flaws otherwise the statement
    ‘it is impossible to land rockets backwards’ is likely false.

    And no you most likely are not the most knowledgeable on how the world really works.As far as I can remember you have only pointed out possible defects in the ‘realities’ that others are presenting for public consumption. If asked what are they really up to it’s distraction,psy-op,fake, BS, misdirection but not specifically what they are really up to behind the distraction,BS etc.

    But hey, I read you cause I enjoy to whether I agree or disagree but to get me to agree with the rocket statement above you have to critically explain the supposed fakery that those other companies are presenting as backwards landing rockets for public consumption. If you can’t, then you presenting an assertion that is likely wrong and holding on to the assertion no matter what contrary evidence one brings up.

    By the way lithium batteries and a boat are bad mix. Ask Musk about his Tesla. Scratch that, he’ll BS.

  2. Brett
    July 26, 2019 at 6:57 am

    Hey Allan, what was causing the buzzing noise in your camper???…was it something vibrating those window blinds?. Also when you said she starts, then she won’t, do you mean the starter motor not turning sometimes?…or the engine is turning over but not starting.
    One of my favourite amusements lately, is asking people how the hell Tesla’s rocket exploded & vaporized into thin air – for the first time in history – and watching and listening to their reaction 😀

  3. July 24, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    “I wrapped up a recent post by claiming that I know more about HTWRW than almost anyone on the planet and no one called me on it. I dunno what to make of this. Either you guys are not really paying attention, or (as a group) you agree that I’m that… smart.”

    We gave you a free pass considering how much change you have been going thru lately- not one of those people who like to kick others when they are down. Besides that, it is a group effort of observation and discovery with what you write, opinions here in the comments section and other various sources of info-dis info on the web that give us our conclusions on what is going on around us so with that being said- carry on Allan and aloha

  4. Horst
    July 23, 2019 at 9:27 am

    As with Apollo, the Russian part in the game has to be considered.
    One Buran had jet engines, for test flights. They built a giant complex:
    https://www.boredpanda.com/abandoned-soviet-space-shuttle-program-buran-baikonur-cosmodrome-kazakhstan-ralph-mirebs/
    Conveniently, the SU (supposedly) collapsed just in time, so there was a good reason to terminate the program.
    It’s a giant muppet show, all are playing their part. Gonna rewatch Moontrap 1989, Space Shuttle and Apollo propaganda in one movie, a Star Trek actor in the lead role.
    Reading the MM article myself, I didn’t read it deep enough to see what he is claiming, I don’t care. They have let him jump the shark, same game like they do with the Disney actors when they come off age. Here the loop closes, Apollo is connected to Disney, producing at least the TV events for preparation. They mess with your mind.

  5. Pedro Leal
    July 22, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Hey Allan
    I’m mostly sure anyone reading your previous post stopped for a few seconds at your statement about beeing the person who knows the most of HTWRW.
    Your situation beeing what it was at that time, probably nobody wanted to jump on someone who was already down and with important problems to solve. It’s not that we, the readers, let it by un-noticed,personnaly, just didn’t wanted to add salt to injury, I suppose. I’ll be waiting for your next post about that.
    Hope everything is fine with you both and that the road will bring lot of good things your way. ‘Godesspeed’!
    ps I don’t believe in ‘God’. Funny thing, in French ‘gode’ (same pronountiation) is a sex toy for ladies…Ironic.
    Cheers!
    psé Ill send a transfer to Gordon today,or tomorrow morning,if I can, but definetly will do it.

  6. Chris
    July 22, 2019 at 5:53 am

    “Sexo en la ciudad” = ? Were you in a Spanish-speaking country when it came out? You might remember it differently. They literally changed the name for international release, because of the confusion here. Oh well.

    ”The Fucking Boat II”

    “It was all fun and games until Gus, nerves wracked by the constant vibration and loud noise, leapt overboard 100 miles off the coast…”. “ …Had to chase for damn near a hundred miles trying to fish ‘em out with the net and some bacon…”

    That would have been a shitty book with a possibly terrible ending.

    • Chris
      July 22, 2019 at 5:59 am

      To those not familiar with “the fucking boat”. It has nothing to do with sex. So don’t be all gross.

  7. Mark
    July 22, 2019 at 12:33 am

    I was interested in the “other ” reason that you bailed on the houseboat. You got my curiosity up and then you went into a distraction.

  8. brian
    July 21, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    I grew up just south of the Kennedy space center and have been watching the space program since the early 60’s. I have witnessed 100s of launches. Have any of the commenters here ever seen a rocket launch? And can some one tell me when they became holograms and not actual rocket launches?

    • July 22, 2019 at 12:05 am

      My question exactly.

      • Chuck
        July 22, 2019 at 7:23 am

        What about witnesses to atom bombs?

        HAve you read MAthis on this?
        http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf

        • July 22, 2019 at 4:44 pm

          Yes, that one is a good example of a MM essay that gave me pause and still does. But are you thinking that it means that MM is who he says he is?

          • Chuck
            July 22, 2019 at 6:27 pm

            You are most likely right that MM is a team, and that his output is salted.
            HOwever, the intended audience will be expected to sift the wheat from the chaff.
            Whne you know why Apollo was a hoax, you’ll understand the reasons for other hoaxes.
            Astronomical peculation.

  9. Jonathan
    July 21, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Success. Homeless. Broke.

    How many people on this planet are broke and homeless? Does this mean they are unsuccessful?

    HTWRW: success is only possible at the cost of those who are unsuccessful because it is seen in economic terms. For every winner there is a loser, usually ten or a hundred losers.

    Success must go beyond economic measurement, otherwise you are only guilty inadvertently or deliberately of contributing to many unsuccessful lives.

    Why would we call you out on your knowledge of HTWRW? The real question is how you have gained this knowledge and how most people have not gained such knowledge!

    Keep playing the game successfully……

  10. jnan
    July 21, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    I agree with most of the above statements, to the point that I have any real “knowing” … I read, listen, watch … affirm, dismiss and question just about everything. I have found the more I learn, the less I “know”. The world it seems, really is a stage, and the play is one giant circle jerk where we all play our “little” parts.
    I don’t get this whole ME thing, it just seems like more tail chasing to me, to what end does it serve? As with the whole space/moon thing, so it’s fake … then what? Or is the point to just keep pointing fingers, jockeying for position? Or is it all more word magic? All meant to distort, distract and confuse … I for one, have no answers, mostly questions.
    I have a very curious mind, so I keep searching .. for what … for that which is either hidden or lost. Since it appears the powers, that should not be, have held the reigns for a very, very, very long time …. how much can we really “know”? If it’s all a lie, and we know it … how many different ways can we dissect it? Question is … what the fuck can we do about it!

  11. July 21, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    In this post I claim that the Mandela Effect is not a govt psy op. This is not strictly in accord with how I see it. It may have been a psy op that ‘got out of hand.’ See this post from back in March:

    http://blog.banditobooks.com/truisms-are-true-hold-onto-that/

    • Pedro Leal
      July 22, 2019 at 11:24 am

      I agree with you, the original psy-op was ‘hacked’.

  12. le berger des photons
    July 21, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    M. weisbecker,

    When was the last time you were in Europe?

    yes, you could take that as an invitation.

    • July 21, 2019 at 2:46 pm

      Around 2014, when Water Time played at a Berlin film festival. That was also when my buddy Joaquim took us to 200mph on the autobahn in his Gull Wing Mercedes. I have a short video about that….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3UUWO9uTeM

      • le berger des photons
        July 21, 2019 at 3:04 pm

        I did 2 hours at 140 mph on an fzr1000 when the highway was brand new, nobody on the road. 200 mph in 2014 seems really scary, plenty of people who’ll move into the passing lane without signaling or looking. What do you do when somebody going 100 mph is suddenly right in front of you?

        • July 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm

          joaquim is a former euro stunt driver… he did the 200 only to show me he could. We averaged about… well, 140, i recall…

          • le berger des photons
            July 21, 2019 at 3:40 pm

            the thing that I noticed was that it was so tiring and stressful that it seemed like it took longer than had I putted along at 80 or 90.

            So that’s the only time I ever did that other than short runs on narrow suspension bridges with almost nobody on them.

            The george s. platt bridge in philadelphia was ideal. very safe place to do that.

  13. James
    July 21, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    My theory is that the shuttle was faked in the sense that a large heavy machine like that wouldn’t be able to glide from space to land because the wing design is flawed,the wings being too short and stubby.
    Also if you see a shuttle land there is a loud roar of jet engines which the NASA liars try to make out the engine noise comes from the two chase planes no way.
    I believe that the 3 rocket engines are really jets .

    • July 21, 2019 at 2:49 pm

      Oh, yeah, I agree that there was/is something very fishy about the shuttle. It MAY have been the beginning of the ‘hologram hoax’, call it what you will. They are definitely doing it (hologram hoaxing) now: you cannot land boosters backwards from space, as I’ve shown in numerous videos.

      As Holmes says; ‘When you have eliminated the impossible… etc.’

    • Patti
      July 22, 2019 at 3:23 pm

      You would be right! I personally witnessed the space shuttle land at Edwards Air Force Base. It was one of the last “supposed” missions. The test base commander invited me up to the observation deck to watch the shuttle land and it did with jet engines rouring and no chase planes. MM is right on one thing, the space shuttle is just a stupid chubby plane.

  14. Phil
    July 21, 2019 at 2:23 pm

    I don’t agree with only some of what you express your beliefs about. But I’ve learned to lay low or risk getting booted out. I find the way you think interesting but you still choose to remain a “believer” in some topics. Is this by conscious choice? Or are you actually mixing the lies with truth yourself? Yes I do question everything!

    • July 21, 2019 at 2:31 pm

      Well, Phil, you’ve managed to accuse me of lying and being deluded without mentioning a single specific claim I make, using a lie as an excuse (I’d boot you out). I suspect there are very few reading this that are not aware of your half-assed attempt at NLP.

  15. mellyrn
    July 21, 2019 at 12:41 pm

    I have no objection to your claim to know more about HTWRW than most anyone, Allan. I suppose I read it partly as a way to grumble about how rare it is for people to challenge their own beliefs, and partly as an expression of how bloody lonely it is to do so.

    It’s also the case that you don’t actually say much about how the world really works. Most of it is pointing out the discrepancies in other people’s pontification about what’s going on. It is in the nature of proper science that the positive claim — “This is how it is” — is always at best a working hypothesis (and thus should *never* be held up as The Truth), but the negative claim — “Nuh-uh, no it isn’t” — *can* be definitively shown. And you do.

    The sophistication of MM’s mind games — I found him(them) confusing, and I’d never have picked up that it was *intentional*, on my own. And beats me what their aim in doing that is — hiding in plain sight? Admitting $X billion was stolen for (?unknown projects?) without directly saying so?

  16. paul
    July 21, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Wouldn’t call you out on knowing the most…more important to have people like yourselves asking questions. Like the issues you choose to explore, especially fake space stuff. Dave McGowen’s Wagging the Moondoggie is the best for me…both for the points he makes and his sarcasm…good to laugh at the foolishness. (plus his Laurel Canyon stuff)
    Given the state of things…staying sane is an accomplishment in and of itself. At least you’ve put out books and a blog…more than most.
    S’pose if I added anything else it would be along the lines of Blaise Pascal’s quote about being able to listen to one’s own mind in solitude…quieting the restless mind or rather directing that energy productively. Tis the human condition, they say. Go easy.

    • July 21, 2019 at 2:36 pm

      Yes, the late Dave McGowan’s exposure of the Apollo hoax is one of the best and most literate. I still go back and read it occasionally, just to remind myself about how powerful a truth-tool humor can be. Big loss when Dave moved on.

      • Alger Cavalloro
        July 21, 2019 at 9:58 pm

        That McGowan piece on the Moon Doggle is great. He also did a video/interview on the Boston Bombing Hoax (I think I have that saved somewhere because it was such a gem) that was equally stunning. I know he was a heavy smoker and such but that quick onset bout of the big C seemed more than coincidental but probably just a bit too tin hat. Success? Sheet, If a man gets up in the morning, and goes to bed at night and in between does whatever he wants to do that’s a success in this mind control experiment we live in.

        • July 22, 2019 at 4:36 pm

          Yeah, his boston piece was equally strong, tho he left out the humor. The question posed earlier, ‘but what can we do about it?’ is answered indirectly by us talking about people like Dave. ‘If everyone’ etc…. but ‘everyone’ is not the point. it is only what ‘you’ can do about it that matters. If every ‘you’ out there taught him/herself to truly think critically, the problems would soon end. IMO.

  17. tomkelly33
    July 21, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Great analysis of Miles’ essay, Allan. I still get carried away by his eloquent wording and often miss his subtle misdirections.
    Looking forward to your next article. I believe you know more about HTWRW because you are willing to keep thinking outside the box and question deeper levels of reality. The show WESTWORLD nicely shows that awakening process. Most conspiracy “experts” get stuck in their limited HTWRW box after a few years and just keep repating themselves.
    However, I’m still waiting for the moment when we have deconstructed the controllers and their game so much that we “know” the solution to get out of their matrix.
    Currently it is still just depressing to know and understand too much.

  18. Chris
    July 21, 2019 at 12:27 am

    But you suck at math.

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