I have given all the hints I can without explaining the trick, which I will do now.
1a Corden has just rolled the dice. It doesn’t matter what he rolled because we are going to see the footage shot earlier with a red 4 and a white 5. Notice where his right hand is.
First, I said the secret is right in front of you and that I would prove how it was done. I also said that anyone who read my last post should get this one easily. (I guess Arthur’s comment about my post was without reading it.)
Right in front of you.
As with my last post I will use screen grabs (which I pretty much told you I would do).
Look at 1a and at its time stamp.
Now look at 1b and its time stamp.
Now 1c and its time stamp.
Get it?
I suspect that everyone but Arthur gets it, so I will explain for him.
1b Here it is, shot BEFORE the show. This is proved by the question: Where is Corden’s hand as compared to 1a? Now that it’s pointed out, it’s obvious, isn’t it?
The screen grabs are in chronological order, right? Notice the continuity error?
See James Corden’s hand in 1a and 1c?
It’s missing in 1b, isn’t it?
Now do you get it, Arthur? (Arthur is the only one I challenged; with the rest of you nothing was at stake, so I assume you didn’t put as much effort into this. Arthur sweated over figuring this out, I guarantee.)
Before Brown’s appearance on the show they filmed dice rolling until they got the red 4 and the white 5 (depending on luck, it might’ve taken an hour to get). Those of you who saw the dice as the key to this were of course correct.
1c They cut back to the previous angle and Corden’s hand is still right at the edge of the bowl. Busted!
Then they edited the pre-recorded shot into the show, even for the studio audience, which does not have a view of what Corden actually rolled on the third try.
How does this tell us anything more than my last post? It tells us that a celebrity (if a half-assed one) was in on the dishonest deception. (Camera tricks are a no-no for legit magicians.)
In the rice trick Brown doesn’t pick up any rice at all. Notice he just dips two fingers in the bowl.
This re-enforces the fact that to get to be a celebrity you have to be ready to do anything you are told, no matter how sleazy or insulting to your ‘fans’.
Obviously, everyone involved in the show — from the ‘star’ down to the lowly grips — knows how sleazy and dishonest this ‘entertainment’ really is, and that they are participating in it. Not a peep from any of them. As with ‘Apocalypse,’ we have all the proof we need that ‘conspiracies’ involving many people are not a problem.
You may think you already know this but it’s important to see it to really understand how it works. It’s also important that you figure things out for yourself. Learn to pay attention when the PTB tell you anything.
As I explained, the rice trick is even simpler and no camera trick is necessary.
Notice how Brown is bending his wrist so the 45 grains of rice up his sleeve falls out properly.
Notice all the misdirection Brown uses to keep us from thinking about how this was done, especially the bullshit about how he was called ‘Dick Brain’ as a kid. Do you see how this sort of crapola works?
More misdirection is when Brown gets upset and whines that he thinks he screwed up and will be off by one grain of rice. ‘Don’t hate me’ (if he’s wrong) he besieges us, so we are rooting for him instead of paying attention. Given the contempt he (and Corden) are showing for our intellects, how annoying is this bullshit?
Derren Brown is an important agent of the PTB, almost certainly out of Tavistock. He is a real piece of satan-worshipping human garbage, and, I suspect, a devotee of Alister Crowley.
One last touch is the crossed wrists at the end of the show, uniting all us ‘Dick Brains.’
Where have you seen that salute before?
In Michael Radford’s version of Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four. ‘Dick Brains’ indeed. These two slimeballs might as well have given us the middle finger.
If you (like good old Louise-Phelan) are thinking ‘so what?’ or the like, you are failing to see the big picture, which involves training yourself to notice what’s actually happening in the world around you.
Allan
Screen grab from the movie. This salute unites ‘Dick Brains’ everywhere, the salute signifying loyalty to Big Brother. Brown and Corden are telling you Ignorance is Strength and so forth. This is Brown’s NLP/subliminal method, for which he is rewarded.
Please think about this stuff. It is important.
TomKelly: Now look at 1b. How is this not clear to you? Make sure to explain.
You all should understand that all the blabbing from tomkelly33 (he didn’t answer what is with that, did he) is misdirection. Every word of it. It’s very simple: the hand should be in 1b. Period. Brett, please do not encourage this PTB troll by trying to ‘reason’ with him. It just makes him think he’s earning his money. (It sort of would be nice if someone else chimed in saying they understand that what I’ve just said is true. There is no big complication here — not with the continuity error — therefore all the blabbing is misdirection.)
Just FYI: I have put a link to this essay in the comments to the Derren Brown video FOUR times and they delete them within minutes. (Same with Apocalypse.) If I am in any way wrong, why don’t they just point it out, get you to do it maybe?
Tomkelly33, why would they do that?
I don’t know. YT censors a lot recently and putting links into comments is usually marked as Spam by default.
Anyway, my critical feedback was only regarding this performance of Derren. In general I agree that he is highly suspicious and just knows too much and plays too much with the topics of Hypnotism, MK Ultra and Atheism.
Hypnotising audience members has become a huge trend under current day magicians. It is supposed to be funny but I always get a creepy vibe from it. The same creepy vibe that Derren gives of when he talks about values and humanity.
Mmmm. It appears that there might have also been the use of magnets, aside from the continuity error and what it implies: It appears that in the long shot (1c) the dice landed in approximately (but maybe not exactly) the same position in the bowl (not the same numbers on top) as compared with 1b, which could have been luck but that is unlikely. On the other hand, they have something fuzzy that prevents us from seeing clearly the position of the dice in the bowl. So this might be moot.
But there MAY be more to this than I at first thought. (This has nothing to do with tomkelly’s nonsensical comment, which is regarding a different subject, i.e., the position of Corden’s and Brown’s hands).
I don’t know that it was magnets to get the dice to finish up in the same spot, irrespective of the number on top, but there may be something else going on here.
Addendum: I have put a link to this essay in the comments to the video FOUR times and they delete them within minutes. (Same with Apocalypse.) If I am in any way wrong, why don’t they just point it out, get you to do it maybe?
Exactly, the dice did all the work for Derren. So you just refuted your own accusation that the moderator and film crew were all in on it.
Are you paying any attention to what I write? I said ASIDE from the continuity error and what it implies; just as in Apocalypse the crew had to see what was going on. Jesus, give me a break, will you?
And what’s with the ’33’? Are you going to accuse me of not knowing what that refers to?
There is no continuitiy error! Look again at your screenshot 1b and compare that with the previous screens when he throws the dice the 1st and 2nd time. In scene 1b the video editor zoomed in and cropped away the upper part that’s why you cannot see his hand. The hand would be directly above the screenshot. The cropping is obvious from the position of the black paperclip, which is centered on the paper board. But in your screen 1b we see only half of the upper part of the paper board (which is the left side of the paper board).
So no continuity error plus the fact that the dice are magnetic (see how they roll the third time and flip into position) means that there was no need for stooges and thus all further conclusions of yours based on a false premise. This is simply Derren Brown doing a really good magic trick. As I said he was a magician beforehand, published 2 books where he revealed some of his tricks and even a video course (called “The devil’s picture book”, which does fits your suspicions about him). He is a superb entertainer and magician just as is David Copperfield. However, both seem to have a bit of a dark side when you research their backgrounds.
Wow. All your blabbing (Jordan P calls it ‘word salad’) means that you claim you don’t understand that Corden’s hand SHOULD be in 1b. This is the summation of all your crapola.
I have to say it and I’ll phrase it as nicely as I can: If you don’t see a continuity error here, either you are mentally challenged or you work for the PTB. I cannot come up with a third option.
I recall this sort of thing coming up previously with you, and it’s the ’33’ that reminds me. Please go away. With the folks here, you are wasting your time. If your boss is reading this: tomkelly33’s time is better spent elsewhere.
Allan, I reckon you are still hot on the trail correct about the camera trick at the 3rd “45” throw.
Because the real weird thing is , he plonked the bowl right near the corner for that throw (to try and keep Corden’s hand out of the shot!).
And yes, WHY would they delete your posts!? 😀
I can’t believe hardly anyone is talking about that first million to 1 throw, where the dive are precisely mirrored number and face angle wise!.
And ‘Tomkelly33’ , couldn’t help himself from posting Insult No. #6Million , with his “Let’s see if you can digest this constructive feedback of mine without resorting to personal attacks. “
The bowl had to be placed in that corner to activate the magnet.
Please think your theory through to the end. If everyone was a stooge and in on it why would Derren need to try and keep Corden’s hand out of the shot? According to your theory they had unlimited time to get the dice and camera shot right. So either it was perfectly staged or it was a live TV shooting. Which of the 2?
I agree with Allan, – the 45 throw was perfectly staged, and set up before the live show…..and by all appearances (like Allan already said) , the end of his hand should be visible in the close camera shot @the 45 throw too.
Magnets could have caused more hindrance than help to achieve the 45, so those Smucks did some pre- show homework….and they had the bowl on the corner during that time.
Thus, they tried to keep “hands away from shot” to make things simpler & tricky to spot by eagle eyed folks.
It’s not about agreeing with your guru Allan but about critical logical thinking and doing the proper research to prove your suggested theory. You can order Derren’s dice here and perform the trick yourself: https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S28302
Both Allan and Brett, please look again at the video at 3:30sec: The moderator drops his hand down to rest on the (black) table edge, which is located behind and to the right of the paper clip. So while it looks from the side as if his hand is floating directly above the bowl it is actually resting on the table edge behind and to the right of the bowl – just outside the frame of the camera. The edge of the table being marked by the blue reflection of the floor in Allan’s screenshot 1b top right corner. This is a diagonal line that runs parallel to the white paperboard. So the edge of the table (where his wrist rests) is quite a bit behind the bowl. This is as forensic as you can get with this video snippet.
Also the shadows of Derrens hands match his movement before an after in sync with the audio, so this sequence doesn’t look inserted. Or are you suggesting they had to film the entire sequence 100 times until the correct numbers came up while the audience was bored.
Maybe we will have to sort of have to agree to disagree.
And yes Allan IS a Guru, but he has NEVER been afraid to put things in front of us, and often asks us to prove him wrong or otherwise etc.
But your logical/scientific explanation is flawed, and doesn’t prove Allan wrong.
The thing is, if the hand WAS just out of camera shot to the side, the other details (shadows of Brown’s hands etc) all look fine – because they will – as that was footage from the pre-setup 45 filming. Filming done in EXACTLY the same position, at the same table, with the SAME lighting.
I think I have watched the dice throws about 20 times now.
Those magnetic dice you suggested, won’t cut the mustard to be reliable enough.
It is CRUCIAL they have a 45 dice throw, or the whole trick – including the cool number pattern board (which is the best part!), goes into the rubbish bin.
Big ass pad with big ass magnets from hard drives in it. The dice have metal implanted in them on the opposite sides of the 4 and 5, although they probably are balanced with weights so it rolls normal, unless over strong magnets. I don’t think it’s camera tricks; it doesn’t need to be.
Sorry Allan, your theory is not correct. His hand is simply outside the top camera frame. From his perspective his right hand is behind and to the right of the bowl and the top camera does not catch it from that sharp angle (you can use the paper clip on the paper board for reference) This is totally congruent with the first few rolls of the dice. Only when he reaches into the bowl you can see his hand in the top camera frame.
In addition, Derren’s hand gesticulations match in their timing perefctly while the video changes from wide shot to close up and back to wide shot.
If they had to film it beforehand he would have to copy the gesticulation movements each time.
Also why would they need the moderator to be there for the close up shot fake?They could just film it alone without him since he is not in the close up frame.
What is more, hiding the rice in his sleeves is not practical. Too much friction with the fabric and the risk of some getting stuck in between. If you hid the rice in your sleeve you would have to bend the wrist upward as it falls out from the bottom of the sleeve. Try it out yourself! Sleeving is a classic technique of magicians but he does not use it here (the solution is more complex; let me give you a hint: his body language of having almost missed is rehearsed and necessary to hide the hiding place of the rice)
Derren Brown used to be a (damned good) close up magician before he became famous and this performance is simply well presented sleight of hand plus the help of some special gimmicks.
Let’s see if you can digest this constructive feedback of mine without resorting to personal attacks. 😉
Rather than repeat what I have already written I will add another image (last one above) to…. well, to show you what you, for some reason that is beyond me, cannot see. Does anyone else have the problem this fellow has? Please let us all know.
You say: ‘Let’s see if you can digest this constructive feedback of mine without resorting to personal attacks.’
First, I cannot see how anything you say is ‘constructive’ since it is all clear NOT from what I wrote but what you can see from the grabs. Even your comment about the rice is… not constructive since in the pic you can see how he is bending his wrist to get all the rice to fall out. He has a little hard box device with a trigger up his sleeve and a tube leading to his wrist so there is no ‘friction’ with the fabric.
How about you do this, since you accuse me of ad hominem reactions to ‘constructive’ criticism: Find one time wherein I used a personal attack that was not warranted, i.e., a reaction to a personal attack against me. Ought to be easy to find since you saw fit to insult me with this accusation.
(If your comment was meant to waste my time you were successful.)
Your screenshot does not help clarify as it doesn’t show depth. From the moderators perspective the bowl is positioned on his left hand side (at the edge of the table) and his right hand is positioned BEHIND the table, towards the right edge. The top camera does not catch that area, as it is zoomed in on the center area.
There are hundreds of magicians who perform magic tricks and mentalism on live TV every day with no need to use stooges as there clever methods and gimmicks that will make sure that the effect will always be guaranteed. My point is that the moderator did not have to be stooged to roll the required numbers.
This does not invalidate your excellent analysis of his zombie apocalypse show, which most probably had to be stooged for the insurance risks alone.
Anyone with even moderately clear vision can see that his hand should be visible in the shot of the bowl. If anyone disagrees, fine, disagree, but its plain to me. The two men are sitting right across from one another. Your claim that the camera isn’t ‘catching’… I am a photographer and know about foreshortening and so forth. You are wrong, and the image makes that clear. You say:
‘There are hundreds of magicians who perform magic tricks and mentalism on live TV every day with no need to use stooges as there clever methods and gimmicks that will make sure that the effect will always be guaranteed. My point is that the moderator did not have to be stooged to roll the required numbers.’
This is not evidence; it’s a bald assertion with nothing backing it up.
How about showing how I use personal attacks? Couldn’t find anything?
Every reply of yours to my comments contains sarcasm, ridicule and irony. Is that proof enough?
It shows that you cannot deal with readers who point out errors in your reasoning. You want to create critical thinkers (which you do through your writings) but they can under no circumstances be critical of your conclusions.
Again, see my detailed explanation above: The fact that the paper clip in your screenshot 1b is not centered indicates that the upper part of the scene has been cropped. In this missing part you would see a little bit of his hand.
And again, the dice will always throw the numbers he wants. There was no need for a reshooting!
Magicians who perform on live TV either use foolproof methods or have different “outs” in case something goes not as expected. Just watch a few episodes of Penn and Teller. They cut out a lot of footage from the performances but they never use stooges (because the tricks don’t require them).
Derren’s specials are a completely different ballpark game where too much is at risk so he has to rely on stooges to guarantee that it works. The same goes for Copperfield who is obsessed with keeping his secrets. And can you imagine what would happen if the girl he takes with him flying over the stage would crash down?
By the way, you say: ‘Sleeving is a classic technique of magicians but he does not use it here (the solution is more complex;’
Really. ‘Sleeving’? Seems like you know the lingo. How about explaining the ‘complex’ technique? Give us more than ‘a hint’. And explain how it’s more efficient than having a little hard box strapped to your forearm with a tube leading to your wrist.
Allan wrote,
“In the rice trick Brown doesn’t pick up any rice at all. Notice he just dips two fingers in the bowl. This re-enforces the fact that to get to be a celebrity you have to be ready to do anything you are told, no matter how sleazy or insulting to your ‘fans’.”
My view is that many, if not all, prominent so called celebrity “entertainers” are operatives who are assigned to portray “entertainers”, that, in many cases, Damon, Clooney, and Chastain come immediately to mind, have spent much of their careers not simply delivering predictive programming and propaganda in spades, but trolling the public while doing it. After all, being an operative, assigned to portray an “actor” who’s best known for playing the role of a rogue spy, e.g. Damon, is quite the troll.
Corden may fall into this category. Who knows. He’s been infinitely more harmful than he is here -see his vile “get the jab” promotions”- duping the audience without any material consequences, all in the service of delivering a “magic” trick that the audience must know is a magic trick, meaning deception of some kind is de rigueur.
I completely agree. Look at the music business via McGowan’s Weird Scenes… the only thing we don’t know is how the big shots are chosen. Via connections? A generational thing, like Sean Penn?
Do they care about innate talent or can they install that with mind control just as they do other traits. Have you read Cathy Obrien’s Trance-formation of America? Some hints there.
I haven’t read Obrien. How are the counterfeit glitterati chosen? I think it’s mostly about family connections/legacy. The Ivy League, particularly Harvard and Yale, the former of which is, IMO, the premiere U.S. “higher ed” spook factory has produced more than its fair share of Langleywood A listers, e.g. Damon, Portman, Tommy Lee Jones, Jodie Foster, etc. Half the time they don’t even graduate, as in the case of Damon, or they have some degree in a lightweight discipline like psych, e.g. Portman. The intel agencies just stick them there to give the industry the patina of gravitas. “See, folks, Hollywood’s not just a redoubt of flibbertigibbet thespians. These are Ivy Leaguers!”
Just to be clear Foster is a Yalie, as is Streep, but Streep’s MFA is Yale.
I also noticed sothing fishy with the dice, the face that is down, have some sort of different material there, probably metal. And why does he throws them 3 times and they only used ’54’?
ps with some training I’m un-beatable at ‘Yatze’ game, making figures with 5 dice.
Well there was no need to have fishy dice since they knew what numbers they needed and rolled them ahead of time. Never do anything ‘live’ when you can get it right before hand. Like the ‘planes’ hitting on 9/11. So many things could have gone wrong, it would have been insane to use real planes. The down side is there are always continuity errors, some big some small.
‘montage’ is key . ‘changes in camera angle’, cut, edit,etc…
Hey Pedro… I’m interested in your “…I’m un-beatable at ‘Yatze’ game…”.
https://pieceofmindful.com/2022/09/26/klausler-chronicles-yahtzee/
Hi DSKKlauser!
I probably said ‘mostly ‘un-beatable. I did read the article, although English is not my native tongue, but I get it.
I’m talking about nothing of the sort and was talking about playing ‘Yatze’ (or ‘Yams’ as we call it around here), for the mere pleasure of playing. Lately, haven’t played that much because I don’t find the right mind set up to do it. I know one guy, that usually plays for money, but the French variable ‘321’, that you play with three dices.5 dice is ‘too much’ for him.
If ever we had the occasion, I would show you an incredible thing, with 5 dices.
ps. now I’ll go back and verify what I said
Sorry Allan, discussing ‘Dice’.
I did said Un-beatable. Really thought I’ve putted it in there (‘almost’), typing dislexia, probably a bit senile too…
Corden is a turd.
Sorry to make such a lame comment but he just is.
And dishonest, which is part of my point.
Right but according to the hoary sutra which governs him –the Talmurd– it ‘s fully OK to deceive us rubes because we don’t count.
I left a link to this post under the YT video and it was immediately deleted. I’ll try again. See if it’s still there:
So you are deleting my comment busting Brown for the fraud he is. Let’s try again: http://blog.banditobooks.com/dick-brains-unite/
Here’s the fraud of his ‘Apocalypse’: http://blog.banditobooks.com/derren-browns-apocalypse-revealed/
Note from an hour later: Both my comments have been deleted. I must’ve touched a couple nerves.
What happens if you post without your URL? Seems anytime I post your website somewhere, YT removes the comments. I suspect YT has your website on a black list.
That would explain some things.
I missed the missing hand – darn it! I suspected that something filmed the top-down picture of the dice at a different time. I was looking more for the red and white die to be swapped with each other for the proof of video manipulation.
Great expose and agree we are being gaslighted from every direction all the time.
You are absolutely Brilliant again Allan! – those lying hounds!!.
I was presuming it was all bonafide in front of a live audience, with NO camera tricks.
I never noticed his hand missing in the “dice = 45” picture, AWESOME spotting by you Allan….did you suspect they were playing camera tricks from the get go?.
I bet Arthur will now chime in, saying he knew how they did it all along LOL!
I wonder how long it took those chumps to roll the 45 dice, in the prerecording setup – like you said – about an hour, maybe much less.
AND – your takeaway education on the deception in the world – CORRECT!
(Unfortunately too many people will still be going Zzzzzzzzzz, because their brain is gone)
Hopefully, it took a full day. But those guys were ‘just under orders.’
I’m trying, but I keep thinking about angels dancing on the heads of pins and think it’s just time to re-read In Search of Captain Zero.
You have to see what is key to effect (’45’ here) and work backwards. easier said than done. There is a guy who analyzes Penn and Teller’s magicians on ‘Fool Us’ that does a good job. Very similar situations to the ‘events’ the PTB keep pulling on us.
I left a link to this post under the YT video and it was immediately deleted. I’ll try again. See if it’s still there:
So you are deleting my comment busting Brown for the fraud he is. Let’s try again: http://blog.banditobooks.com/dick-brains-unite/
Here’s the fraud of his ‘Apocalypse’: http://blog.banditobooks.com/derren-browns-apocalypse-revealed/
This is the one I left under ‘Apocalypse’:
This is a fraud using actors and I can prove it: http://blog.banditobooks.com/derren-browns-apocalypse-revealed/
I also busted this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAJHUv2JS7w
With this essay: http://blog.banditobooks.com/dick-brains-unite/
See if they last long.
Not seeing the time stamp difference on the video, 3:30 to 3:32. Time looks right, what am I missing? Seems like the vid timer keeps ticking away the seconds. On the other hand any time you view something on video it is subject to manipulation,
I don’t understand your problem. Please use the labels (1a, 1b, 1c) and explain what you don’t get. The three pics are separated my 2 seconds each. Where is his hand in 1b? Why don’t we see it like in the other two pics?