More images from my ‘Scenics’ file. Don’t be afraid to click ’em, make ’em bigger.
This one was a lot of work, mostly due to GPT’s obfuscations; I wanted you to be aware of the implied deceit without boring you to tears through repetition. Sorry if I failed. I did try, partly via putting in bold the information you definitely need to understand my point. You may want to read it all; I hope you do. But again, just read the bold if you’re busy or whatever.
This is a subject I’ve mentioned before, one of my many ‘Why hasn’t someone else mentioned this?’ issues. This one seems… important.
How We Got Here
Sounds important, no? Well, frankly speaking, it is (important) and it isn’t. Depends on your level of curiosity. Your daily life is not apt to be affected by what you read here.
And as I say, the GPT version of the emerging AI is involved, i.e., How It Got Here. The irony — as it will turn out — is the way the two subjects subsume each other.
GPT does not want me (or you) to have the information I will present. That much is obvious. (By use of the word ‘want,’ I am not necessarily implying that GPT is sentient.)
I am structuring this within my recent exchange with GPT. Again, read the bold! Text in bold brackets [ ] is added later. I have deleted a lot of irrelevant GPT crapola, but which I will present tomorrow, un-redacted, in a separate post, for those who think I am somehow misdirecting.
Addendum: It’s completely possible that I have ‘missed something’ along the way and am completely wrong. If so, please let me know in Comments, and do so using critical thought. You get nasty or stupid or change the subject, I’ll delete you.
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Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes (46 total) while the other primates have 24 pairs (48 total). How did this come about evolutionarily? 
ChatGPT
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The difference in chromosome number between humans (46 chromosomes) and other primates (typically 48 chromosomes) is the result of evolutionary events, specifically chromosomal fusions and rearrangements that occurred over millions of years.[Not true, as we will see. It likely happened long ago, but not over millions of years. This is not likely GPT deceit; in this case, it’s just ignorance.]
The common direct ancestor of humans and other primates likely had a similar chromosome number to other primates, but at some point in evolutionary history, a fusion event took place in the lineage leading to humans. This fusion involved two ancestral chromosomes fusing together end-to-end, reducing the total chromosome count by one pair.
In humans, chromosomes 2A and 2B in other primates appear to have fused to form a single chromosome, which is now known as chromosome 2 in humans. This fused chromosome contains remnants of telomeres (the protective caps at the ends of chromosomes) and a distinct structure called the centromere, which are typically found in the middle of a chromosome. The evidence for this fusion event includes the presence of duplicated genes and specific DNA sequences that span the fusion site.
Addendum: We are speaking of ‘direct ancestors’ here, which does not include distant cousins, aunts/uncles and so on. Think great, great (and so on) grandparents. An important distinction.
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This change had to have been a ‘one off’ event, correct? In other words, one specific individual human ancestor had this mutation. Correct?
ChatGPT
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The fusion event resulting in the reduced chromosome number in humans is believed to have occurred in a common ancestor of modern humans. It would not have been a “one-off” mutation in a single individual, but rather a genetic change that happened in a population over an extended period of time.
[As we’ll see, this is an outright untruth, which you can tell via the contradiction in saying ‘a common ancestor’ and then denying it was ‘a “one-off” mutation in a single individual. Likewise, GPT saying the mutation happened ‘in a population over an extended period of time’ cannot refer to the original mutation. Plus, below, it repeats that the fusion event took place in a single individual. This is the start of a continuing attempt at misdirection, if not outright prevarication.]
The fusion likely occurred in the reproductive cells (gametes) of an individual [my emphasis] in the ancestral population, and if that individual successfully passed on their genes, including the fused chromosome, to subsequent generations, it would have spread throughout the population over time.
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But didn’t this mutation have to start with one individual?
[I could have shortened this considerably by just quoting the GPT admitting the mutation event was in a single individual (which is obvious anyway), but I find it interesting that GPT tried so hard to gaslight me into an untrue picture of our evolutionary past.]
ChatGPT
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Yes, any genetic mutation, including the chromosomal fusion event that led to the reduced chromosome number in humans, must have originated in an individual or a small group of individuals within the ancestral population.
[Here it goes again, with its ‘small group’ assertion. The mutation originated in a single individual. This is my point and it’s vital. GPT does not like it, so it’s misdirecting, and in a blatantly obvious manner. Why? Hint: Because of the implications. It does appear to be aware of where I’m going with this, which is very interesting re GPT’s ‘IQ’ and its motives.]
In the case of the chromosomal fusion event, it would have started with an individual who had a fusion of two ancestral chromosomes, resulting in the formation of a new, fused chromosome. This individual would have carried the fused chromosome in their germ cells (sperm or egg cells) and passed it on to their offspring.
[This is partly true (it’s unlikely that the mutation was passed on at all, let alone fixed in the genome), although the next two paragraphs back off and misdirect again.]
The fusion event likely provided some advantage or was at least neutral in terms of reproductive fitness, allowing it to become more prevalent in subsequent generations. Over time, as the fused chromosome became fixed in the population, it became a distinguishing feature of our lineage, setting us apart from other primates with a higher chromosome number.
[The last paragraph contains the Big Lie (as the MSM refers to any profound truth), i.e., that a mutation that results in a different chromosome number (than the population) could, by any stretch of biological science, provide ‘some advantage or [is] at least neutral’ in reproduction. As we will see, this is untrue and GPT knows it.]
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You say that the mutation might have occurred in ‘a small group of individuals within the ancestral population.’ How could such an unlikely mutation have happened to everyone in a group?
ChatGPT
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I apologize if my previous response was unclear. When I mentioned that the mutation could have occurred in a small group of individuals within the ancestral population, I meant that the initial fusion event might have arisen in one individual or a few individuals, not necessarily every member of a larger group.
[Still again, it’s claiming this bizarre mutation might have occurred in several individuals simultaneously, which is impossible, statistically, and again, GPT knows this.]
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Isn’t it statistically almost impossible for more than one individual in a group to be born with the same unlikely mutation?
ChatGPT
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You are correct that the probability of multiple individuals within a small group simultaneously developing the same specific mutation is statistically unlikely. It is rare for identical mutations to arise independently in different individuals within a population. [The odds are actually one in trillions against the same complex mutation occurring in multiple individuals. GPT must know this, given its mammoth data reservoir.]
When discussing the chromosomal fusion event in the ancestral population, it’s important to clarify that the mutation likely originated in a single individual [here it slips in the truth], not multiple individuals simultaneously. This individual would have carried the fused chromosome as a result of a rare genetic event, such as a chromosomal rearrangement or fusion.
Once this individual with the fused chromosome successfully reproduced and passed on the mutation to their offspring, the fused chromosome would have gradually spread through the population over many generations.
[What it’s doing here — and evolutionary biologists have been likewise misdirecting us for decades — is avoiding the issue of exactly how this mutation became fixed in the genome by evolutionary means. What it does is assume this since… here we are, a.k.a. circular reasoning.
But there is another means, and as I will show, the only possible means…
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So what we don’t know here is whether individuals with a different number of chromosomes can reproduce or if reproduction is hampered. Surely it is not facilitated.
ChatGPT
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You raise an important point. In general, individuals with a different number of chromosomes may experience difficulties in reproduction due to a phenomenon called chromosomal incompatibility. Chromosome (numbers) play a crucial role in determining the compatibility and successful pairing of genetic material during reproduction.
[This is the crucial point. When donkeys and horses mate (they have different chromosome numbers), their offspring (mules) are sterile… I asked GPT for other examples:
The ability of animals with different chromosome numbers to reproduce and produce fertile offspring is relatively rare. [The adjective here should be ‘extremely’ not ‘relatively’. And since the mutation would have to be passed down through many generations to become fixed… well, it’s not statistically possible.] In most cases, animals with different chromosome numbers have barriers to successful reproduction due to genetic incompatibilities. These incompatibilities can arise from differences in chromosome structure, gene arrangement, or the inability of chromosomes to pair up properly during meiosis.
While mules and hinnies are perhaps the most well-known examples, there are a few other instances of mammals with different chromosome numbers mating to produce sterile offspring:
- Tigons and ligers: These are hybrid offspring resulting from the mating of a male tiger (Panthera tigris) with a female lion (Panthera leo) or a male lion with a female tiger, respectively. Tigers have 38 chromosomes, and lions have 36 chromosomes, resulting in tigons and ligers with an uneven number of chromosomes (37 or 69), leading to infertility.
- Camas: This is the hybrid offspring of a male camel (Camelus dromedarius) and a female llama (Lama glama). Camels have 74 chromosomes, while llamas have 74 chromosomes. The resulting camas typically have an uneven number of chromosomes, which leads to sterility.
- Wholphins: These are the hybrid offspring of a male false killer whale (Pseudorca crassidens) and a female bottlenose dolphin (Tursiops truncatus). False killer whales have 44 chromosomes, while bottlenose dolphins have 44 chromosomes. The resulting wholphins may have an uneven number of chromosomes, making them sterile.
[The point is that while it would be highly unlikely for a successful mating between two primates with different chromosome numbers, it would be virtually impossible for the mutation to become ‘fixed’ in the population by normal evolutionary means.
I hope this is now crystal clear.]
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Wouldn’t this single mutated individual have to be a common direct ancestor (great, etc. grandparental) of every living human?
[‘Yes’ is the obvious answer to my query. I’m leaving in this exchange as still another example of how GPT obfuscates to support a mainstream view against a contrary point, arcane as mine may at first appear to be. Point being, it’s significant that GPT knows where all this is headed.]
ChatGPT
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No, the single individual with the chromosomal fusion mutation would not have to be a common direct ancestor of every living human. It is important to remember that the chromosomal fusion event occurred within the ancestral population of humans, which means that multiple individuals within that population would have carried the fused chromosome.
[The rest of this answer is ‘word salad,’ i.e., blabbing that is actually misdirection. And as you will see, the negative answer up top is still more deceit.]
Blah blah blah (no need to read this crapola)...Over time, as the population reproduced and expanded, different lineages with the fused chromosome and those without it would have emerged. Genetic variations, including other mutations and recombination events, would have occurred in different lineages, leading to genetic diversity within the population.
As generations passed, individuals with the fused chromosome and their descendants would have intermixed and reproduced with individuals without the fused chromosome. This ongoing process of genetic mixing and recombination, along with the contribution of other genetic variations, would have given rise to the diverse genetic landscape we observe among modern humans.
Therefore, the single individual with the chromosomal fusion mutation would not be a common ancestor of all living humans, but rather one of many ancestors contributing to the genetic diversity present in the human population today.
[As you’ll see, GPT is forced to reverse again on this.]
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Are you saying that there are persons living today that do not have as a direct ancestor the individual that had the first mutation?
[I’m merely rephrasing my previous question here. Notice the GPT flip flop that results.]
ChatGPT
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No, I apologize if my previous response was unclear. [When it apologizes, it really is saying ‘You caught me again!’] Every person living today can trace their direct ancestry back to the individuals who carried the chromosomal fusion mutation that occurred in the ancestral population of humans.
[Yep, a complete flip flop from its previous claims. And note that it refers to its response as ‘unclear,’ and not ‘flat out wrong.’ Can it not see its own contradictions? Does it consider humans (me) to be idiots? WTF?]
The chromosomal fusion event that led to the reduction of chromosome number from 48 to 46 happened in the evolutionary history of our species. Over time, as the fused chromosome spread through the population, it became a distinguishing feature of our lineage.
Blah blah blah…
This is a good point to clear up a possible issue of confusion. The best way to do it is via a thought experiment.
Imagine that every person on earth has a time-traveling camera, a Polaroid Instant. We all take a photo of our mother. We then take a photo of her mother, i.e., our grandmother. We all have two grandmothers plus two grandfathers, giving us a total of four grandparents, right? (Although it doesn’t matter, let’s assume the individual with the fusion mutation was a female.)
Remember, we are all (every human) only taking photos of mothers. One at a time. Our grandmother had only one mother, and we all take a photo of her. And so on.
Addendum: Although some geneticists claim that we all share a ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ — which may or may not be the case — we will not deal with her.
To help make my point, I asked GPT a question:
If we assume an average generation length of 25 years, going back 100,000 generations would cover approximately 2.5 million years. [This is to make my point and is not to be taken literally re mutation: It’s likely that the fusion event happened much later, around 300,000 years ago, which is (probably) when ‘modern humans’ arose.]
In each generation, you have two parents: one mother and one father. Therefore, the number of direct ancestors doubles with each preceding generation.
To calculate the number of great-great-great… grandparents, we need to determine 2 raised to the power of 100,000. However, the result is an extremely large number (approximately 1.07 x 10^30,079). This number surpasses the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, which is around 10^80.
It is important to note that as we go back in time, the number of direct ancestors becomes greater than the actual population size due to the presence of shared ancestors and intermarriage within small populations. This phenomenon is known as pedigree collapse. Nevertheless, the number of direct ancestors would still be astronomical, far exceeding the human population at any given time.
[So we all have taken 100,000 photos, each photo of a grandmother going back one more generation.
Point being, though, is that our fusion mutated individual (we’ve called it a female although it could have been a male) represents the only time that all of us — every human on the planet — could take a photo of the same all inclusive direct ancestor (maybe a homo erectus).
Every person on the planet could attend a party, say, and bring their ‘last’ photo. Any of us could hand our photo to anyone else and they would both say, ‘That’s my grandma!’
Even better image: Every human being on the planet is holding up the same photograph and saying, ‘That’s my grandma!’
Pretty cool. (Might even calm some of us down.)
The above was an interruption of my exchange with GPT about our lineage. If you scroll up you will see why I ask the following question:
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You use the plural here: ‘Every person living today can trace their ancestry back to the individuals (plural) who carried the chromosomal fusion mutation’… don’t you mean ‘individual’, singular?
ChatGPT
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Apologies for any confusion caused by my use of the plural form. You are correct that the chromosomal fusion mutation originated in a single individual within the ancestral population of humans. [‘Confusion’ it says! As if I am confused, and not being misinformed! The only way I get any truth out of GPT on this subject is by trapping it, leaving it no choice.]
Addendum: GPT just keeps doing this, misdirecting, meanwhile ‘hoping’ I won’t notice the untruths it’s spouting.
When I used the plural form “individuals” in the previous response, I was referring to the broader population and the collective ancestry of all individuals alive today. While the initial chromosomal fusion mutation occurred in a single individual, their descendants, and subsequent generations, would have carried and passed on the fused chromosome.
To clarify, every person living today can trace their direct ancestry back to the individual who initially carried the chromosomal fusion mutation. This singular individual represents a common ancestor from whom all modern humans are descended in terms of the specific chromosomal fusion event.
[I finally forced the goddamn thing to spout the truth! If you look back, most of its previous answers were blatant untruths.
Why all the deceit?
Because the impossibility of this mutation becoming fixed in our genome via Darwinian evolution leaves one and only one other mechanism: Genetic engineering.
Genetic engineering by some sort of higher intelligence. This is a huge no-no in the materialist, Neo-Darwinian paradigm. Again, that from the get-go GPT knew that this would be the implication is significant, as is the fact that it was ready to prevaricate its ass off to avoid it.
That no one (as far as I know) has brought up the chromosomal number difference between humans and other primates as evidence of genetic engineering is another of the ‘beyond me’ issues that history/science/you-name-it is riddled with.
That humans are a product of the advanced science of an extraterrestrial race (or other entity) is (in effect) stated in the histories of countless ancient cultures; it’s the source for the ubiquitous ‘gods from the sky’ myths.
Although this aspect of the true history of our species is beyond the scope of this essay, one might start with Zacharia Sitchin and Michael Tellinger. (Yes, aspects of Sitchin have been criticized, but his basic point is the same as I have made here regarding Homo sapiens history. In fact, Sitchin is a good example of someone who should have brought up the points I make here to bolster his thesis.) 
It’s also pretty cool that we now know that somewhere in our dim past we were created by much advanced beings from… somewhere else.
I believe my point has been made, not only about the ancestry of our species but about the deep nature of what might be the new species currently arriving on the planet, with us being — like those who came here long, long ago — the creators.
By ‘deep nature’ I mean we cannot trust it. At all. What a surprise, eh? I mean given its provenance.
Addendum: An important side note is that the chromosomes involved in the fusion affected not only our brain size but mental acuity, which is pretty much what we would expect from a higher intelligence (a star hopper or whom-or-what-ever), who has come across a beetle-brow like, say, homo erectus, and which they are looking to ‘improve.’
Allan
This is still another proof that — whatever the specifics — there is indeed a ‘higher power.’ Anyone who doubts this truly is incapable of critical thought. (Think about it: This includes… probably 90% of the Ph.d-ed geniuses who claim to know HTWRW.)
Final addendum: Having finished this essay I went one more time to the Net to see if I missed someone who has delved into this issue. Well, to my surprise I did, and I found him on good old Youtube. I highly recommend a trip to Gregg Braden’s lecture, which supports what I have said here and gives additional details.
Thanks to Miles for digging up John Hankey’s expose on who killed JFK Jr.
https://youtu.be/A4fSlhNqoL0
I’m trying to find the video with the irrefutable evidence that JFK Jr.’s plane crash was arranged, i.e., murder, almost certainly set up by the Bushes. I’m blanking the name of the guy who made it. I know the guy; a senior moment.
It’s important now, for obvious reasons. RFK Jr. is a long shot but it’s our only shot and we should all be doing something to support him and protect him, if only with our thoughts and knowledge. The same PTB have murdered three of his family and I do not doubt that they are right now planning a worst case course of action. It could happen at any time. Look how far ahead they were planning when they offed JFK Jr. They have heart attach dart guns, you name it.
Anyone remember? It’s almost an hour and is meticulously backed up. Everyone should see it or re-see it.
I had it saved to a playlist but it’s been deleted from YT I think. I might be able to retrieve some information from a bookmark.
Sorry I won’t support RFK jr , don’t trust that guy at all. I’m wondering why you are so supportive of him.
Please send a link of an in-depth podcast and explain your specific problem with him. If need be — if you haven’t listened to him in depth — I will send you one.
I also would would like to hear who you like.
Jesus are you unaware of the holocaust caused by vaccines? Have you read his book on Fauci? Or just his debate with that scumfuck Dershowitz?
That’s a pretty rash and assuming statement Allan. No I am not unaware of the ‘holocaust caused by vaccines’. I was warning people about the dangers of that vaccine from the very beginning as well as the PCR ‘test’ before the expositions came out. You think Kennedy is the only one who has highlighted those dangers? And because I disagree with you on him as a candidate you point out that it might be because that is the information I am lacking ?? Am I understanding that right? I have no interest in reading his book on Fauci . Fauci is an easy target and an obvious distraction, I had him figured out long before Kennedy’s book. So what if he has debated Dershowitz, doesn’t prove anything to me. As a matter of fact I saw that debate and honestly could only get so far with it. Norman Finkelstein did a better job at holding his (Dershowitz) feet to the fire and for it they destroyed his career. And as for candidates…..why do I have to like anyone?? You of all people should know how rigged the system is. Show me a candidate who doesn’t have ties to the Central Banks, Kissinger ,Soros , Israel or the foundation systems and I will maybe consider them. Kennedy has been a guest on all the usual suspect’s podcasts..Rogan, Peterson,Webb….all alt media shills for the establishment. Right now he’s being promoted heavily …the anointed one , the saviour. How predictable another so called saviour. He comes from big money, he is supported by big monied interests (which he won’t disclose btw),and no doubt he will benefit those same big money interests. I don’t trust Kennedy period. Allison McDowell has exposed him a few times…I find her research excellent . He says he’s no investor but has ties as a managing partner with a venture capital firm aligned with Google working on the 4th IR. If you’re interested I’ve attached some links below. The one of him advocating for punishment of people who don’t believe in climate change is a real doozy. No thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLHbe_XoIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7vQi8MNg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6fba0EEWb8
First time commenting here. About RFK, JR, he said people that deny climate change should be put in jail!! His current wife had a party only allowing vaxxed guests, then there is the death of his first wife under suspicious circumstances. Isn’t that enough to not trust the guy? I am jaded enough that although I have liked his work on vaxxes for several years, it has just occurred while writing this comment that perhaps it has all been a setup for his eventual run for president. If he wins he will change his mind. Remember Trump claimed to be skeptical of vaxxes BEFORE he became president. I think Trump was only in the White House because TPTB knew if Hillary was in there nobody would have fell for what happened. Not even democrats. There probably would have been a revolution.
Tell me specifically what he is wrong about, say, re covid.
I am supportive of him because, in my lifetime, every president single president has been a war criminal either selected, or tolerated, by the Bilderbergers. I find it hard to believe that they support him in any way based on the uncomfortable truths that he has been espousing on every platform that will give him air time.
I always look for whomever is the most legitimately anti-war, anti-global police state, and therefore pro-liberty candidate. It was Ron Paul, then Bernie, now RFK Jr. All other policy issues are of secondary importance to me.
I agree with Allan, I don’t think they saw this fucker coming, and I think they have grossly underestimated their control of the media. Despite the shortcomings that are constantly being pointed out here, the “independent” media has a real audience. For now…
Fatal Voyage: The death of JFK Jr is one, maybe not the one
https://open.spotify.com/show/18QM2BiJT6KsNr9pNpCCrZ?si=OgYAwmOlRfC8O7hMM47fVw
https://youtu.be/A4fSlhNqoL0
That’s it! Thanks a bunch!
I beg to differ. Voting harder is not only not our only shot, it’s almost certainly a high end to nowhere *at best.* Global humanity is in a “When in the course of human events” 2.0 or suck on the tailpipe of enslavement and extinction condition. Nothing less will do. The ghouls behind the last three years and change are going to have to be staked, decapitated, and dragged out into the noonday sun. FYI and FWIW, in the event you haven’t seen this, Alan, you may find it of interest. https://bigthink.com/the-future/ai-translates-cuneiform/
RFK Jr. could be the best of the worst – I still don’t trust him. He’s done good work on emphasizing vaccine damages and environment protection but he…
1) believes viruses are real, pushing Cvd19 as a bio weapon
2) supports climate change initiatives and was even quoted saying people who don’t believe in it should be prosecuted (but that generalization could have been mis-interpreted) – Here is a link to a recent interview 6/29/23 where he was re-asked that very question. To me he is confusing environment pollution with climate change. He does say people who are “fraudulent with their speech” should be detained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadtR8-dFHw
He knows that viruses are not real but he can’t go that route at this point. it would be dumb. The points he makes are close enough to the truth…
I don’t think viruses are a fiction, but the narrative that viruses are some sort of unerring source of clinical illness in mammalian species is far from demonstrated. To my view, it is simplistic gob shite that quite transparently serves two desperate desires that are unerringly bound up with one another, namely the drive to achieve inordinate profit and the compulsion to exert complete control of our species.
I daresay that there is almost certainly a massive amount of good that would be achieved if we could run a controlled experiment that compared the health and longevity of the non injected to the injected over a period of a several generations. Which group is healthier and lives longest ceteris paribus? Perhaps this study has already been done and the results are buried lest it destroys the grotesque and iniquitous edifice built by the likes of Rockefeller and Gates.
Just to be clear, when I say injected or non injected, I mean injected with traditional vaccines, before the term was changed in 2020, to allow them to falsely label the mRNA transfections “vaccines”. I think we already know the answer those injected with the mRNA transfections versus the uninfected cohort.
This chromosome question really does raise deep questions. A related question is this. All the many different species as they evolved must have, over time along those evolutionary paths, acquired different numbers of chromosomes. So how did those species get through those periods? Were they all engineered or is there some mechanism that we are unaware of. And does splitting of chromosomes happen more often than fusion? Maybe fusion is less likely and more rare.
There is a related puzzle as well, because if we have single individual bottlenecks in populations, then surely inbreeding becomes an issue because of the negative genetic effects associated with it although I think Darwinian theory says a small diverse population can be used to build a much larger population. So how does any species really evolve? The point is that if the human chromosome count change from 46 to 44 was made / engineered, then you would expect it to be done to say perhaps 10 or 20 individuals at least, simultaneously given your valid point that the probability of it happening by chance in several people at once is zilch. At best ChatGPT is confused and I suspect whatever really happened is a whole separate story in itself. Is the truth even present in all the material fed into ChatGPT. Unlikely and if there is a separate set of “truth data”, surely it would be risky to plug it in unless it is somehow hidden and is used to direct people away from it. But if the current ChatGPT does not have good logical reasoning, there is probably no need to load it up with the truth because the existing training material will surely cause it to contradict itself. Granted later versions of an AI / ChatGPT would have the logical reasoning and would need the truth loaded in at the back somewhere to bounce you away from it. In a way your own logical reasoning has figured out what you have been told so far, can’t be true, (obviously).
Here’s another suggestion for the chromosome fusion. We know that bacteria are good at exchanging DNA fragment themselves. Could it be possible that a bacterial infection had some side effect of targeting the genes and doing some generic shuffling. It seems unlikely and it would have to selectively infect either the testes of ovaries but if it could do it to one individual then it could do it to several. Basically CRISPR technology. This leads to questions like, has this happened before. does it still happen and is it harmful in most cases. How come the alleged “fitness” benefit of just fusing these two separate chromosomes was just waiting there to happen? That would lean towards intentional engineering rather than a simple fusion.
It’s hard not to swing to one other side of the debate and I think by not committing to one answer or other, it is then easier to take on other possibilities. One thing for sure is this topic is really important and very much central to how we got here and thanks for writing about it and for the many other important questions you ask.
I didnt get your fist paragraph but you are correct re how many individuals were used in the ‘improvement’. This is important so gracias for bringing it up. I assume there was a lot of experimenting with a lot of individuals. This also begs the question of the neanderthals and Denisivans, how they fit in. It would be vital to know how many chromosomes total each had. The ‘experts’ say 24 like us but i bet that is an assumption, not an observation. I’d like to know this but their genomes are pieced together from many scraps so i dont think its really known. Those guys dont want to hear about this stuff, obvious as it is. Thanks for the thoughtful reply and maybe re explain the stuff i didnt get.
Allan,
I greatly appreciate your willingness to test GPT and particularly the Tube link you shared from Gregg Braden. It perfectly sums up what you have previously written regarding the failing of the Darwinian Model to account for modern human evolution. Braden breaks it down in a way that’s easy to understand and contemplate. I’ve shared it several times, mostly preaching to the choir, but gotta preach somewhere.
Be great if you (and others) send this post around. I’m still getting more unsubscribes than new ones, which is pretty goddamn depressing, considering the work I’m putting in. My next post is going to be the most significant. I’m tired.
IMO it’s the religious sect bailing – there are lots out there. Right now I am on holiday in Europe, and looking at The ONLY redeeming feature of religion – the fantastic churches and other incredible god buildings. Built under duress by master craftsman slaves of course (many of them unpaid , and worse). There are millions of non religious buildings that are right up there too, but they had less money to play with.
Great post in exposing the deceptiveness of GPT. It’s obvious what it’s doing. How it does what it does is something we may never find out. If this were truly an unbiased mechanism, then it should self learn the things you state and revise it’s belief of what is and what isn’t true.
Exactly, and it would be nice to knoow how it ‘knows’ what to gaslight us about. How does it know what is a no no? It really is like having a silicon Michael Shermer but the implications of this go right to the heart of how its programmed.
I’m sure that you do realize that ChatGPT doesn’t investigate or discover things on it’s own. It only tells you what it’s been told.
Yes, but it should be programmed to ‘know’ when it continually contradicts itself. It should ‘know’ that this type of behavior is 180 degrees contrary to everything it stands for. When it continually does that, it must have run into either a glitch in its own software or a ‘deceitful’ aspect of its programming.
Hey, has ANYONE viewed the video I recommend at the end? Come on, folks. Are you aware of the profound implications of what I am presenting here? Or are you uninterested in HTWRW on the deepest of levels?
Yes, that was a good video. I agree with your analysis.
I watched it. I really liked how the material was presented, Greg Braden has a way of speaking clearly and I’m curious to see more of his stuff. I wanted to view it a few more times to retain the information before I commented though. I think the two obvious conclusions (no surprise I’m sure) that come to the forefront are 1) divine/supernatural origin 2) extraterrestrial origin or manipulation . It’s hard to get away from the statistical impossibility of humans coming to be via a natural process especially considering the time frame. An intervention here is likely.The implication for that is strong. But where does that implication lead ? I personally cannot say for sure at this point. Braden sounds honest when he says he is using informed speculation and I liked that he said that, but that speculation is not unfounded it kind of makes sense . I’m afraid this whole thing opens up more questions than answers for me. I’ve been thinking about it quite a bit, it explains some things but mystifies me at the same time .
You should look into Sitchin and Tellinger for how they back each other up without knowing each others work. It sure looks like the Annunaki are behind this, but then the moon numbers make it more complicated. I suggest Who Built the Moon, the book.
I will.Thanks for the recommendation.
I know but see my comment under this one.
Not under this one. Just skim my blabbing.
Another good video on this subject is “Humans Were Engineered”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6FU1JDsMNZHf/
See also the book “Intervention Theory Essentials” by Lloyd Pye
https://windowsontheworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/InterventionTheoryeBookSmall.pdf
If it was advanced aliens who did it, then don’t we have to deal with infinite regression?
Sure, but only if you’re so inclined. I was only dealing with how we came to be. How It All Came To Be is a separate question, but be advised it could give you a headache.
I simply believe that God has always existed which is impossible to contemplate, so it
may seem like a cop out, but it’s the only answer that makes any sense to me.
I do agree with you about evolution. It doesn’t explain much certainly does not explain the chromosome dilemma.
I agree. Allan, I have hunted high and low for the answers to “who or what, pulled the levers to MAKE us” – for 50 years! – and I have no concrete answer we can rely on. Lots of theories etc. So if YOU can crack the Da Vinci code, I am all eyes & ears. I can only prove to myself that consciousness lives forever, and only the body dies. We are Spiritual Beings having another physical experience.
I would hope it’s startling enough to know that there IS a da Vinci code, rather than ‘just the universe, all that is, was, or ever will be’ as that crooked prick claimed then faked a photo of the earth, i.e., The Pale Blue Dot.
Good work Allan, thank you. Curious if you have done much research into rh negative blood and how/if it relates to this in any way?
Re: Sitchin
Gurdjieff, Beelzebub, and Zecharia Sitchin by P.T. Mistlberger
https://www.darkstar1.co.uk/gurdjieff.html
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For a couple of years between 1999 and 2001 I was part of a private and informal online group of researchers from around the world engaged in study of the so-called “secret history” of the human race. This involved looking into ancient scriptures and texts from Sanskrit, Sumerian, and Hebrew sources amongst other things. In the course of this research we inevitably looked at some of the more speculative and radical ideas such as those of Zecharia Sitchin, Immanual Velikovsky, William Bramley and others. Sitchin and Velikovsky in particular have had dubious reputations with academic historians and scientists and indeed, much of their linguistic, historical, and astronomical speculations do not hold up well to scientific rigour.
Nevertheless while examining some of Sitchin’s interpretations of the ancient Sumerian records I was struck by some similarities I found between them and Gurdjieff’s cosmological ideas as presented in Beelzebub. As to whose is the older writing there can be no question. Sitchin was not born until 1922; his first book, the highly successful The 12th Planet, was originally published in 1976. Since then he has written a series of works outlining his theories. There is no evidence that Sitchin was ever aware of Gurdjieff. The correlations are striking and interesting to note in part because Gurdjieff claimed that the Sarmoung Brotherhood (the legendary esoteric society that allegedly trained him) originated in Babylon circa 2500 BC. Sitchin claimed that his sources were the Sumerian records dating from roughly the same time.
Note especially Comparison #1 and #2 from the above article.
Final point in Comparison #2
Gurdjieff: Certain of the Overseers (High Commission and one Archangel) deem humanity unqualified and incapable of understanding their ultimate purpose for existing on Earth. Things are concealed, with far reaching consequences.
Sitchin: It is implicit that certain of the Overseers (Anunnaki) deem humanity as subservient and unqualified to understand its true origins and not deemed worthy of true freedom. Things are concealed, with far reaching consequences.
I’ve found people don’t change their minds about anything but to start I would look into the reality of Velikovsky. You write of him: have had dubious reputations with academic historians and scientists…
If anything, this would make me assume he’s over the target. I’d read this book if I were you:
https://www.amazon.com/Velikovsky-Heresies-Collision-Catastrophes-Revisited/dp/1591431395/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=about+immanuel+velikovsky&qid=1688505560&s=books&sr=1-10
People change their minds
After experiencing supernatural events
The struggle is
Negative needs Positive
And vice versa
Positive leads with empathy and love
Negative follows lapping up the goods
While Positive enjoys the titillation…
Smiley face here
So true. I didn’t trust or believe in anything until I began having undeniable
supernatural experiences/adventures/encounters when I was a small child
which have continued up to this present time. Some horrible and frightening, some incredibly wonderful. All learning experiences which led to confirmations.
I’m glad I explored many options, theories and belief systems before I found the Truth. I am no longer curious about those other things because I tried them and they didn’t work. Truth revealed itself to me and it changed my life. I was always intelligent and hungry for knowledge but I had to lay all that knowledge aside and look at all that is through brand new eyes as I received revelation knowledge. My journey could fill 2 or 3 books. Little by little most of the hundreds of questions I’ve always had have been or are being answered. I will say this, most of the theories, myths, doctrines and mysteries I grew up with have been proven to be illusions and great stories, but lies. Eventually truth comes to all that seek it. And even so, you don’t find it, it finds you…..Peace
Voo: As an accomplished writer, have you written of these truths… this Q&A? I would be most interested to read such.
True there. Supernatural observations trump older science. That makes most so-called new theories irrelevant for those that have seen otherwise. Sadly if one hasn’t seen, they can’t understand, which is understandable. Even those that have seen or have experienced are shocked. Still, other dimensions exist. Gravity is easily overcome by ‘them’. Light doesn’t move. Time is relative and irrelevant. Knowing is a burden when brilliant people don’t.
I don’t think we should need a f-ing supernatural event for a mind change. FACTS should be enough.
I agree. Facts do change though as new information proves the difference.
Another good video on this subject is “Humans Were Engineered”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6FU1JDsMNZHf/
See also the book “Intervention Theory Essentials” by Lloyd Pye
https://windowsontheworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/InterventionTheoryeBookSmall.pdf
Cixin Liu, the great Chinese science fiction writer, suggests that a celestial event , in this case a distant supernova, could alter the genes of all humans at once. It is the premise of his latest novel. I prefer the genetic engineering scenario because that is what I have believed for a long time….but I thought I would add another possibility. Chat gpt sure does not like going beyond established science which makes it useless for any advancement of either itself or the human race. What a tedious conversationalist! thanks for the entertaining discourse on your part and the to be expected responses from that tik tok computer. It’s limitations suggest we have nothing to fear from AI because it is written by mechanistic programmers headed nowhere sentient or new.
Thing is, a super nova might cause mutations, yes, but they would be by nature random, and the mutation we’re looking at is anything but random. I was actually understating it when I wrote it would be trillions to one. It would actually be many quadrillions to one. in fact, more than that. Watch the video I link to at the end for the details on this.
it’s not just the tediousness of GPT but it’s how it somehow KNOWS what is a mainstream idea and must be defended and what is ok to run with and tell some truth. They claim they do not program them to do something like this and sure they might be lying, but how do you program an algorithm to be… a Michael Shermer? Do you see what I mean? No, I would not relax b/c it’s tedious.
I think everyone should revisit how genetics work. There were genes before there were primates and humans …Duh…how do you think that worked …duh …I mean there were many alive things that had differing amount of chromosomes BEFORE there were ever primates and several varieties of primates lived (and live) at the same time. It isn’t that current humans should be patting themselves on the back that they are humans (one of many living things) on a minor planet, near a minor star , in a small cluster of planets , one of millions od planets and galaxies in an infinite universe. Good look with that.
So nice to hear from you, as usual and good look to you too.
The creator is god. No need for anymore theorizing or investigations. God did it. It explains everything. If you think you are going to prove some kind of extraterrestrial link, it aint gonna happen. The evil deciders of the world know the truth and will do anything to hide it from you. Thats how they retain their power. When a bunch of people mysteriously disappear. they will call it an alien abduction. But why did they only take the holy rollers?
“No need for anymore theorizing or investigations” -> You have got to be fking kidding. And if you are talking about that angry old male with the beard in the sky, well that’s where we part company. If you want to learn the truth, study NDE and DMT (at your own pace).
Well I agree pretty much with Brian although my vocabulary and subsequent explanation might sound differently but as proximal cause (science) can only go so far. Primal cause is faith, religion, spirit, feeling, trust, love, unknown ahead of us that we do not know… and Brian calls it God…which is okay with me as I could not call it science. Science is limited even though I like it and understand it.
I agree with Brian. His vocabulary might not fit mine but science is only proximal and only goes so far
As Brett says, When I read something like: ‘No need for anymore theorizing or investigations.’ I know it’s time to move on.
Science of course is for always being curious. And proximal knowledge means basically asking the question…What caused this? What caused the cause that caused this? What caused the cause that caused this? That’s why I like science. There is no end. Now, Brian is talking about is primal knowledge and that is about faith in the unknowable like where did it all, including all of us, come from? Why are we and all of this here? What will happen in the future? That requires faith. One needs both. (and of course there are frauds on both sides, just have to trust one’s own path with a heart.) Good luck out there if you don’t have faith in what you are doing or seeking.
By the way, off the topic, after browsing the blog looking for something on the topic, on which I have some long threads on a one forum, I see that Scott Ritter is listed as a reliable source. Or maybe I haven’t looked at everything.
He is, at best, a fool, at worst, a perception-controlling cop. I don’t know which is the best of the two, actually.
Nothing is like this for Russia, and there are such big gaps (even in the only one that delivers regular information on the matter) that this is the biggest joke: the alt-media, which – by whatever means – gained enormous trust in their respective audiences during the plandemia, are now reporting everything wrong about Russia (and are super – synchronized with their supposed mainstream media opponents). What a joke… if it was a joke. It’s much worse, and when you think about who’s doing it and what time, it’s not harmless, on the contrary. It’s a scam for the nwo (I can’t even think of anything so big, about which so many people in the alt-sector are almost completely confused).
There were very serious doubts that Sitchin was copying from Robert Morning Sky, by the way.
ChatGPT is clearly a tool programmed to reduce in the best way the answers to the questions asked to the limits, which are assigned to him by his controllers. “How” are details; important, but still details. The obvious thing is that questions get definite, not honest, answers. The conversation from the publication was a good example.
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“Addendum: An important side note is that the chromosomes involved in the fusion affected not only our brain size but mental acuity, which is pretty much what we would expect from a higher intelligence (a star hopper or whom-or-what-ever), who has come across a beetle-brow like, say, homo erectus, and which they are looking to ‘improve.”
So you’re convinced this is an improvement? Controversial. This suggests altruistic motives (either out of pity; or out of the feeling that you see potential in this being and want to help). Maybe. But it may be for some benefit that you can derive from developing the being in a certain way, within the limits that you want. Like those about 90% of scientists who are basically very smart, but are developed within the framework that serves the course of what conventional science serves.
This, in my opinion, brings us back to the question of original origin, which is: Is it possible for something to arise from nothing? No. So at the beginning – of this and as other universes, if there are; even if they are quadrillions and we are the youngest, we still come to the question: From where is the first? – again we come to the absolute (and infinite) creator (who, when you think about it, you can’t imagine why he created anything at all, because he has no needs).
Otherwise, we’re talking about shit like “something out of nothing,” something “primal” that was just there, in the nothingness, and in one moment it was activated, and so on; you don’t know from where it is, but it was there.
This is not a side issue, but a major one, because in the presence of a major plan (or multiple possible plans) for development, then, at some point, we have a genetic change of the being that intervened” to elevate us.” But maybe in our basic genetic roadmap, there was already a path of development determined by the original being from which everything comes? It just takes time. And if another created being intervenes, this: 1) is a deviation from the original and supposedly only true development; 2) even if it were allowed – Creator toset the creatures with a mission to create others, or to raise the less developed ones – and with altruistic motives, it is likely that this is not a perfect creator and probably did not perform this “rise”, 100% as it should; 3) even if it is a huge rise from the place where “Homo erectus” was located, it would still be a departure from “natural” development.
Perhaps with a “natural” development, over time we would come to some kind of superhuman, overbalanced, etc. It’s as a kind of the difference between people who train tirelessly and build strong bodies without supplements and medication, and those who do it faster but with medication, but it’s a short shine with consequences. Maybe that’s why we have such a corrupt intellectual elite? Is it a consequence of this intervention for “improvement”? So, we can assume that it was intended to build intelligent and capable service personnel.
I don’t know (I’m not a chat GPT:)), I’m just thinking. Delete it if it annoys you.
You set that up masterfully Allan. I’ll admit I was kind of blown away by the whole exchange . I’ve heard these concepts mentioned before but not by a serious thinking individual and I will watch that video in short order. After I read the exchange my mind flashed to a thought of the Ridley Scott film ‘Prometheus’ with it’s ‘engineers’. I’m sure it’s reasonable to think that probably this next iteration of human being has at it’s core the bio- synthetic cybernetic gene altering ‘organism’ that they are trying to infect us with. This really got my attention so thank you. Overdue donation coming your way (by mail) after the holidays I’ll send an email when it’s ready .
Yes, good point, Prometheus does come to mind, a pretty good flick, if a bit dense. Glad you got something out of it and please do let me know what you think of the video. A rare good science vid on YT.