Some of you, by no means all of you, seem to think I delete/ban comments because I ‘don’t agree with them’ and am rude or nasty to people (presumably for insufficient reason) I respond to.
Well, okay, maybe this is true. So let’s do an experiment. Here’s a comment I just got:
Allan, be sure to get yourself checked out by a doctor, or get the vaccine .. since you are traveling and could encounter anything, anywhere … you just don’t know where it’s going to hit next.
Stay safe out there.
Now, ‘jnan’ has been here for many months and knows very well how I feel about vaccines. Here is an example of how I feel about them. It’s also an example of the time and effort I put in to warning folks about how dangerous they are. (That video, titled ‘Vaccines, Autism and Denial’, is probably a month of work, minimum.)
Here’s another one Jnan should have seen, given the time he’s been here, and commenting whenever he feels like it.
I could include posts or excerpts of posts that say the same as the videos, but you get the point.
What I want you to do is put in the comments how you think I should respond to ‘Jnan’s comment. I need a consensus to figure out if I’m behaving badly or as I should, given the circumstances and the purpose of this forum.
I’d much appreciate your help on this. Write your comment as if you were me.
Allan
You have to understand that according to the evidence, if I took Jnan’s advice about getting vaccinated I’d be putting myself in danger.
You sometimes simply cannot agree because you are just another level of a limited hangout, probably a counter intelligence honey pot/distraction. You usually completely ignore or even intimidate people with revealing comments.
Wow. Here’s a good example of someone who uses anonymity for sleazy reasons. But okay, how about an example of my intimidating people with ‘revealing’ comments. (‘Ignoring’ is bullshit, btw. I often have nothing to say when I agree with someone. I usually don’t have time to answer every comment; it would be a waste of your time.)
Allan and Company, I must apologize for my stupid,” SARCASTIC” comment. Just goes to show, if your scholarship isn’t up to par and your writing skills are limited .. it’s easy to put your foot in it. And I now see that my comment was, (to say the least) ill advised and poorly thought out. Though I have been told, SARCASUM is rarely a good idea … lesson learned.
But, in my defense, you’ve got me all wrong. I have been following Allan since before he went on the road, because I see things pretty much as he does, and I respect his opinion, scholarship and considerable writing skill. Does that mean that I always agree 100% with everything he says .. no …. But that does not diminish the value of what he puts forth.
By way of explanation … During the ongoing Coronavirus exchanges I found myself increasingly frustrated at what seemed to be, two opposing views, each one, certain in their point of view. (my perception) I on the other hand, after wading through a lot of information, opinions and outright bullshit … the only conclusion I could come to was ????????, as I stated in my comments, along with some information that seemed credible to me. It was Allan’s certainty of the reality of the “thing” that prompted my sarcastic comment. My bad. Oh, I get it, the vaccine jab was especially bad .. I do know and agree with Allan on that subject.
I have been drowned with lies, disinformation and outright propaganda all my life, and did not know to what extent, until I retired and started on my own journey, full time, trying to understand HTWRW. I can’t say I have much certainty about many things.
I am one of those persons who has lost family and friends for expressing my OPINION … (like Allan and 911). I thought this was a place where freedom of thought and speech was still welcomed, even if you’re not always on the same page, and sometimes less than brilliant in what you have to say.
I have one “friend” left, and find that I “self censor” in order to maintain that much needed relationship .. we inhabit different planets .. it’s a very difficult and lonely position to be in.
So, apologies to Allan and everyone who found my comment out of line, offensive or inappropriate, I meant no disrespect. If I’m not banned, any future opinions will be self censored. Thank you for letting me voice my opinion thus far, and thank you for your valuable contributions.
Bahaha. Sarcasm. That is actually hysterical. It never even crossed my mind but, in hindsight, I see it. Clearly a swing and a miss, lol. I was wondering which vaccine you were talking about anyway. Too funny.
And I think a lot of us can relate to losing friends along our journey trying to understand HTWRW. It can definitely be lonely which, I suspect, is why seeing asinine comments in this space can be so disheartening.
Thanks for the clarification.
I took your comment as sarcasm, but even if you’d finished it with a [sarc off] tag, it was still a bit petty, did you no favors, and would rub Allan up the wrong way anyway.
Allan was simply in that Walter phase where he could’t believe that the virus could be staged, despite the fact it was all happening in tightly info-controlled environments. Expunging comments supporting the hoax theory didn’t do Allan any favors either – even if those commenters were state moles. (WTF is a state mole anyway, and why would they waste such time?)
Anyway, the main issue is that we are probably now in the endgame: international travel is being discouraged, borders are closing, the market is being reset, North Korea has been brought back into play, and big earthquakes are being predicted…
Wow. Okay, this is a rarity. Like to see more of this sort of comment from some folks.
You should just say “thanks”, because they took the time to respond to you, and then ignore it.
Hi Allan,
In keeping to the letter of your request I would reply along the lines of…
Jnan,
Taking into account the amount of time you have attended this blog, I can only interpret your comments as being either incredibly superficial, i.e. you have taken nothing away from the enormous amount of evidence offered in this forum as to HTWRW in which case I cannot fathom why you would still be here, or your intention is to provoke.
Given your soothing tone of concern using language that shrieks ‘NLP’, I tend toward the latter interpretation in which case I kindly request that you BTFO and let the rest of us get on with the serious intent of this forum.
You have been noted.
Thanks for all the heavy lifting and sharing you do at this blog Allan.
You are a great source of nourishment and stimulation in the quest for truth and I for one are most grateful.
Cheers
Thanks, Eric. Yes, I was a bit pissed off and figured it was a good excuse to see where some others of you were at on the subject of anger and deletions. I didn’t mean it to get out of hand, as it sort of has. We do have more important matters to get to.
Here is Australia, we have a love bordering on obsession with the game known as “Cricket”. One of my favourite sayings from our beloved game is “Let that one go through to the keeper”. The keeper in this case is the wicket keeper. He has a set of large padded gloves and therefore best prepared to catch the thunderbolts sent down at 150 mile per hours by our fastest bowlers. For baseball playing nations, think catcher and pitcher. The saying comes about when a fast, dangerous delivery, which could possibly catch the edge of a players bat, is better left alone. This delivery is not directed at the batsmen, nor will it hit their stumps – rendering them “out”. It’s wide of the mark and just better left alone. In the modern game the practice of “letting one go through to the keeper” is becoming a lost art. Followers have paid to see action and causing the suttle art of the “leave” to be lost. In this case, for everyone sake “letting one go through to the keeper” may be the best course of action.
I agree. I maybe should have let the keeper have that one. (Btw, I love your spelling of ‘suttle,’ which is the way it should be spelled, in my view.
jnan,
The reason we enjoy Allan’s
Investigating site, is to explore and search
for the truth versus what is told to us by so-called experts.
Getting advice or help from the media or government
is exactly what this site quadruply checks to point out
the misinformation and/or liars.
Although I’m sure it was kindly meant by you,
passing out very controversial or wrong advice
could end up hurting someone.
It’s good to use the right side of the brain
more, not the left side. Using the left side strictly,
leads to mental problems like OCPD. We need to
continue the ‘out of the box’ thinking.
Instead, If you go along with the PTB,
and you find out later they were wrong
and you didn’t do your do diligence,
you cannot call yourself a victim. Why?
You’ve read it here on Allan’s blog.
There’s no vaccine available for the
Chinese government-made pandemic virus.
If there becomes one, you may be the first
inline for it.
But, if you join to read and study the valuable
links and information in this serious blog,
you may choose other-wise.
No, Cat, he didn’t mean it kindly, which is why he apologized. You are trusting and kind (a rare character trait, and which I saw in you when we met).
Well there are two approaches to taking when dealing with people. The first is to assume they are trolls or whatever trying to disrupt the blog and drown out your own messages.
On the flip side there are probably plenty of people who read your blog but they aren’t fully paying attention and don’t really remember everything so they are quite genuine and their intentions are good but they are just not making the full mental effort to remember all things you said and object to.
If it were me, I would be inclined to say ‘yes, thanks for the advice but as I have said before I don’t do vaccines…’ But on the other hand after a lot of comments like that, patience would wear thin and I would probably get quite short too with people. Overall though it does get tiresome.
As I say to Cat, not in this case, and I… I could just tell from the context. But let’s forget about it. I’m sort of sorry I brought it up as so much of a big deal.
I have been following the virus story with great interest. The amount of misdirection, lies, clickbait, censorship, evasion, stupidity, face-saving etc. has been a wonder to see. It seems to surpass even the US elections for sheer volume of noise. I compiled a list of preventative and symptom treating home remedies, herbals, mushrooms etc. Elderberry +zinc is by far the best preventative I have found. Easy to find. High quality Vit C in unusually large doses is obviously useful. I can print up the entire 2 pgs if desired on this site.
It seems to me that there are at least 3 different strains of the virus.. the Iranian and Italian strains being much deadlier than the Chinese, European and so far American strain. Notably, black Africa is, so far, infection free. Race targeted infection has still not been perfected but this epidemic may prove to be the practice run that makes perfect.
If the build up to the pandemic has been interesting I believe the fall out will be spectacular, especially for nations unaccustomed to shortages. However this will be an excellent time to start perfecting survival techniques. Maintaining sterility is a science and an art that we will all have to learn. An operating room nurse could teach us all a lot on that topic! Imagination and a bit of dystopian sci-fi should get us thinking more clearly about what lays ahead. Many traps have been set along the way. I can foresee the next generation of humans spending a lifetime in isolation.. magnetism turned to repulsion. Perhaps humans will take that quiet time to reflect more clearly on the meaning and utility of life.
Interesting thoughts.
For what it’s worth, I can picture the fall out being catastrophic, beyond that the PTB were hoping for. We’ll find out just how sensitive the various supply chains really are. I mean, if you live in a small town, say, and all it takes for the grocery shelves to be bare is a couple drivers who decide to say home… this little glitch could cause a domino effect and suddenly all the ‘small town friendships’ go out the window and interpersonal hell descends. I’ve tried to warn a couple or so people back in Montauk, and it didn’t really go that well with some.
jnan, yr comment is kind of threatening, as well as plain weird.
‘get the vaccine’ shows that you are a lurker rather than a reader.
‘get yourself checked out by a doctor’ sounds a little too much like those knee-jerk charges of unsoundness that we who make your sort uncomfortable are so very used to hearing.
Ergo piss off.
I have just read a long article by an expert on viruses who said that the coronavirus is almost identical as SARS and his opinion is that the UN controlled WHO organisation big pharma and the depopulists like Bill gates make big money out of these fake epidemics. He said that Ebola when released was almost impossible to catch so the Red Cross went to villages and vaccinated people who then went down with the disease. In the end the villagers stopped the Red Cross from entering their homesteads. Its obvious that we are being played over and over again. And i for one am not duped by it. The fact that a lot of other people are doesn’t surprize me, there is always going to be people who are not clever enough to see through the lies. At the end of the day you can’t educate everybody its like putting perfume on a pig ho ho j
It’s hard to tell what you mean by ‘fake epidemics’. If you’re back on the ‘complete hoax’ riff, meaning there is no new bug whatsoever and this is all hype and crisis actors and CGI-ed videos, then I can only sigh, since I’ve already asked everyone to think about How That Would Go (HTWG) in actual practice.
My analysis is spot on in my mind the facts are that yes the virus is real but as i said from an expert in this field and peer reviewed. The strain is an ordinary flu or common cold bug and not particularly virulent, perhaps it is easier for you to understand that if people go down with the flu they stay in bed for several days with the sympoms of going hot and cold etc however people on the streets of Wuhan keeled over with serious breathing problems,that does not happen with the flu . So something else is taking place and the consensus here is that it is connected to the 5g rollout . I never said that the virus is fake but it is part of a scare psyop and has been purposely expanded whereas if an elderly patient had any kind of flu, if they had to be hospitalised they wouldn’t bother to test to see what kind of strain it was because according to the health proffessionals including Doctors and Nurses meaning those couregeous enough to speak out that is, this whole excercise is a practice precursor to a jade helm style totalitarian communist or fascist state eroding the civil liberties of all of us .
I just had a look at the flu related deaths in the UK and it varies considerably, some years there could be only 600 whereas in 2008-9 there was 10 thousand another spike in 2013 was similarly high but as far as i recall it wasn’t a big deal in the media thats why i think this pandemic is suspicious.
Looking at all the peer reviewed refereed research on vaccines, there is no evidence to support Jenny McCarthy and her idea that her autistic kid was autistic because of a vaccine. There is no evidence of widespread , significant harm in any way from the widely used vaccines. Minor amount of people affected negatively but probably more than a billion were protected well by vaccines: Flu, Measles, DPT, Polio, Yellow Fever, Typhoid, Mumps, and more. So, I think that you love to find obscure not well backed up bad info and blow it up to go against main stream science because you get off in being the guy that blows the whistle even tho you have no reason to do so. You simply take umbrage of factual data because simply you did not figure it out first. Factual is not your goal. You are not the smartest guy on the planet even tho you like to think so. But IF YOU WOULD WRITE ABOUT YOUR DAY TO DAY LIFE , you could be a solidly good writer.
Wow. Do you not realize that Allan’s readers are here because he has an enormous amount to say? We are not here to read about his daily life. There are thousands of blogs out there who center around day to day life. Why, in the world, are YOU here if that is what you want?
I will not even add links to the thousands of studies and testimonies that contradict the “official story” of vaccines. Why don’t you spend a few hours listening to the personal stories of day to day life of parents with vaccine injured children? Or, for that matter, of the day to day life of doctors who tell about witnessing children being injured?
Your comment is a perfect example of why Allan asked us this question about banning. This is his place. Why should he deal with people who have been around and still insult him like this? Your comment has almost made my head explode. Unfrickinbelievable.
Jnan and you Mary Louise Phelan are to pees in a pod! You guys should hook up it wold be a match made in? Well not so sure?
Nope, Jnan is top man, – see his above letter. He is cool.
Yep, Jnan did something Mary LP would never even be able to do. But more importantly, folks, what do I do with someone like Mary? Her comments are usually a waste of your valuable reading time. But I’m leaving her in. (I suppose her comments ARE ‘examples of something’ and therefore to some may be enlightening, if only for those who tend to agree with her views and may self-reflect with ‘Do I sound like that?’)
I think a short meme reply like “vaccines kill people and spread disease” should suffice. Remember you put hours and hours into this and everyone else spends minutes reading it and maybe commenting. A few users give a shit, most don’t, and you do a lot. Jnan is probably one who doesn’t, and will probably not even read your reply.
No, as you can now see from his reply, he’s paying attention here.
no response is best…don’t let comments distract you…folks just spewing mental diarrhea on social media…
Personally I think you need some water time.
I agree with T
Yes, but that wasn’t the subject, nor was it supposed to be answered like that (notwithstanding that on some level you are correct).
I can’t stand this thinking thing make it stop☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️🤪🤪
Okay, Allan, again. Maggie here from TBP. Your followers are awesome. I’ve now featured HarvardtotheBigHouse there
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/07/harvard-to-the-big-house-research-with-a-background/
and, since Miles mentioned him here and I got no response from you, I contacted J.C.on a bike and have featured him at TBP.
I posted a comment trying to credit your blog but the comment never made it past moderation.
I tried.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/07/biologist-on-a-bike-tbp-special-saturday-edition/
I did mention you in the article but did not link to here. You don’t like comments that don’t address the topic you are interested in. TTFN
Thanks, Maggie, for your attempts to spread the word, maybe get a few people to come here and see if they get anything out of it. I still get zero new subscribers, with several unsubs each week. This is sort of disheartening. But I will press on. I know I’ve had an effect on one or two people, actually caused them to think about new issues or old ones in a new way. This is my goal.
Though I would not compare your problem with jnan, or any of us recalcitrants, exactly the same way you dealt with Walter, there is plenty to be learned from the manner in which you treated Walter. You let him have his say and even accepted his insults without recrimination. I do hate to see someone like Walter humiliating himself since he seems like a nice guy. But to be fair, he knew what the cameras were about. However, he thought his patriotism was being unfairly judged, and thus his comment about him being in a JonBenét Ramsey trial. By now he may have come to a sense of shame over where his ultimate loyalty lay. Truth, or truth denied for fear of losing the connection with the group, tribe, gang, nation, or profession, etc. We all, normatively and instinctually require the connection with the greater social group, and threat to this connection is experienced with intense dread. The many homeless are experiencing this, not as threat, but as an ongoing hell of disconnection, as the wide-ranging scapegoating against them and everyone they can ascribe to mental illness is in progress.
I like to think that Walter would be welcome and forgiven if he decides to come here and publicly change his position. Really though, he would probably ask who we think we are, judging from high on our throne of self importance. There is no certain formula for dealing with human obstinacy, especially when we fail to consider the underlying causes of what shows us obviously as blind ignorance. At the center of it is: pain. Like when we thought we did good but got beaten for it.
I think this article is relevant: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite07.htm “As I hope to demonstrate, it is actually quite straightforward. The “conditioning” process that most of us undergo in the course of a normal Western childhood not only causes us to divert from our natural behavior but also permanently alters the way most of us evaluate information.”
… how a typical Western childhood can subconsciously render us: addicted to material pleasures and the quest for personal power, resistant to information which contradicts what we believe we already know, and impervious to natural self-healing – and all without most of us becoming any the wiser.”
Thanks for JC on a bike.
Great link, interesting paper. Where it ends and ignores the esoteric//exoteric aspects of humanity and control and reverts back to a simplistic solution void of any spirituality.
Well wrought comment, although in Walter’s case I believe you misread him and what’s important to him.
If you have the time and inclination, I’m curious where I misread him.
When I saw his comment earlier I was taken aback on so many levels. Where do you start? It strikes me as in incredibly ridiculous comment that portrays a moron at best. I am embarrassed by it. Unless of coarse he is just deliberately trying to get under your skin. I too have managed to have you (Allen) go off on me as well but this takes the cake.
Yes, he was trying to get under my skin (have you seen the movie), which is why I asked for your opinions. And I assume you’ve seen his current comment.
But, to actually answer your question, I think you should probably just ignore it. What else is there to do?
No one ever learns anything they don’t want to learn.
I am still just astounded that you (and others) are sounding the alarm – there is a new bug and it was made in a lab – and everyone seems to shrug and respond with a lot of “well I believe, I think, I feel” nonsense.
So what are you going to do really?
Please don’t let that deter you, especially in the days ahead. Some of us take your work very seriously and appreciate all that you do.
Yes, we have some ‘days ahead’ all right, and again, I’m sorry I brought this up the way I did.
This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco,
This ain’t no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey,
I ain’t got time for that now…
This is life during wartime.
Seriously folks, that is what this is.
I saw jnan’s comment and was just about to fire off another – “what the fuck could you possibly be thinking?” response, but you beat me to the punch.
Starting to feel like your entire readership thinks this is just some intellectual exercise and not what it actually is – deadly serious.
Wake up people, this ain’t no garden party.
Well said! Forget the sheep who only know how to follow. We all need to learn how to be local leaders, because true leaders are and will increasingly so, be in short supply everywhere in the coming months/years. We are only in Wave one….many more to come under MUCH more trying circumstances. Good luck to all.
Yes, John, trying circumstances ahead, I fear. I feel fortunate to have gotten safely to where I am (photos to follow). As I’ve said a bunch of times, I hope I’m wrong, but I have a very bad feeling about this one. And yes, good luck to all of you. Let’s stay in touch.