‘It just won’t stop…’
This is my brief summation of the email ‘conversation’ I had yesterday with Barbara Honegger. Many of you know how it goes with me when I contact an alt media or ‘Truth Movement’ ‘name’ or outlet. I ask a question they don’t want to answer and Boom! I’m on someone else’s shit list. (Most have learned not to reply to me.) But I have to tell you, Barbara outdid most of them. She really did. If you think it was a bit odd that she didn’t want me to quote her but had no problem with my describing in detail her words… well, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
The last photo I did of our Oregon niche before moving on.
Be advised that I don’t think that Barbara Honeggar is one of ‘them,’ i.e., a shill or plant, although she is up to her eyeballs in a major psy op. I could be wrong but I don’t think she’s in on it, not consciously. When I get where I’m going in a couple days I’ll explain what happened and ask for your opinion. One of the very good things that’s come from enabling comments here is that I now know for sure that many smart people are out there, listening, and thinking. Critical thinking.
Whatever is going on with Barbara Honegger, it has interesting implications.
Also be advised that what I’m saying here is not meant to put you off her Pentagon presentation. Most if not all the revelations are correct. It’s still worth a look. But if you don’t have the time for the whole three hours, I ask you to go to the end — this is in preparation for my upcoming post — and listen carefully to what she says. It’s at about 2:58:30, her answer to the questioner with an accent. (I don’t know how to provide a link to the exact spot in a video…help?)
Gus dug out her own niche in the jetty rocks.
Watch her demeanor because I believe it’s key to what I’ll point out about her. Her words are important, too, but based on the… very strange… statements she made to me, I’m thinking something important is going on, and will be revealed.
Allan
Oh and hey: The commenter called ‘Hank’ is a gov’t troll. Same one who’s been trolling me via email for years, under a slightly different name. Also, as Todd pointed out, he didn’t answer a question I asked that would give his game away: Why the media fabricated images (a la Walter vid). Any answer would be torn apart by you guys so he shut up, like so many alt media types do when I ask a question they ‘can’t’ answer.
Please don’t try to engage him. Remember in Silence of the Lambs when Clarice was warned not to ‘talk to’ Lecter? Well, it’s not that bad, but he is trained… you will just be wasting your very precious time. Everyone’s.
Allan’s wild imagination and lack of research/reasoning skills forced him to embarrass himself with, “Oh and hey: The commenter called ‘Hank’ is a gov’t troll. Same one who’s been trolling me via email for years, under a slightly different name. Also, as Todd pointed out, he didn’t answer a question I asked that would give his game away: Why the media fabricated images (a la Walter vid). Any answer would be torn apart by you guys so he shut up, like so many alt media types do when I ask a question they ‘can’t’ answer.”
Coming from a guy who spends year after year trying to divide, discredit, and obstruct the 9-11 truth movement by spewing insane delusional nonsense like no planes hit the towers, the irony is pretty impressive. Absurd, easily disproved nonsense like yours is what the PTB use when they want to ridicule dismiss truthers. Like *all* credible, respected, qualified, and dedicated 9-11 truth researchers, all rational, informed people know that one plane hit each tower. It’s beyond ludicrous to suggest that every photo and video taken by every person from every vantage point that shows planes hitting the towers has been somehow faked. And it definitely makes truthers look like delusional nut jobs. If that’s not your intention, why do you do it? The good news is that very few people read your lunatic rants.
And I did answer the question Todd pointed out as soon as I became aware of it. Post a link to the video you’re referring to and I’ll point out where you’re wrong – again. DO you also “think” the Earth is flat? Wow….
Go away, Hank, or Henry – whatever your name is. You (obviously) have fallen for the Lie. There is NO way a plane could slice through a tower as if the tower was made of butter. That’s not possible…. You’re welcome to believe the Lie given by the PTB you work for. Go ahead, more power to you. You have already been exposed as a shill/troll/brainwashed potato head. This will be the last time I read your posts and the last time I’ll acknowledge you. Now go away.
Regards,
~Kimberlie
Kimberlie, you’re making things up and being very silly. No planes sliced through any towers as if the towers were made of butter. What did happen, is a 250,000 pound mass of high strength aircraft grade aluminum, steel, and titanium traveling at about 500mph, broke the bolted connections in the perimeter frame and bent the exterior columns. Near the tops of the towers, the steel in those columns was only about .25″ thick. You should learn something about the construction of the towers before you post wild, nonsensical speculation. *ALL* credible ,respected, qualified, and dedicated 9-11 truth researchers agree that one plane hit each tower, because the evidence proves it. That’s why no-plane disinformation trolls babble about butter instead of steel. Thanks for proving my point. 😉
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html
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Allan, knowing what we have discovered since 9/11 and the information from architects and engineers for 9/11 truth and the follow up wars , the amount of infiltration into all levels of government, military and the alphabet agencies , and all media. It’s so overwhelming on so many levels , is there any hope for truth and justice ?
Ray
X,
Thank you for sharing with us your take on what happened/is happening and how the US was created by those who infiltrate it, and then re-infiltrate what they’ve already infiltrated. I’ve oftentimes come to the same conclusion…. there is/was always a ‘mole’ somewhere when it comes to the acquisition of power. That the PTB have deliberately set the stage and “unset” the stage in order to reach their goal of world dominion is obvious. I wholeheartedly agree with you that these are very clever and cunning people.
The thing niggling the back of my mind as I watched Honegger was who was behind this? Who orchestrated and financed this big hoopla she was ‘narrating’ to the audience? This was no small gathering in Seattle’s Town Hall Theater, (January 12, 2013) – almost 6 years ago.
….Yes, there is much deception
For there will arise false christs, and false prophets, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones.
~Matthew 24:24 World English Bible
Kind regards,
~Kimberlie
Kimberlie,
Global power is a pyramid, where each layer is ignorant of the information possessed by the layers above.
Deceptions are not just for the bottom layer (plebs), but for layers above (politicians, aristocrats, etc.), and so on.
The ‘goal of world domination’ is a story for the benefit of the lower levels, who are still unaware that it has already been achieved.
Each time you mention Christ I will point out to you that it is a story retold every age, to perpetuate the importance and knowledge of the cross to mankind. There is no supernatural ‘son of god’. The symbol of Christianity is the fish to correspond with the age of Pisces. When you’ve deprogrammed yourself, you can tell me the zodiacal symbol for the previous age and the name of the ‘christ’ equivalent. The Bible remains important, but there’s nothing supernatural about it.
Okay, thanks, Todd and you all. Going back on the road and may not be online again until tomorrow.
Thanks, Todd. Speaking of you, everyone please note the addition to the P.S. in this post. (The bit that mentions your name.)
What we don’t want to forget is, that the powers that be do not really care if endlessly talk about HOW they did it. As long as we don’t ask WHO did it. That is the real question isn’t it? For a good start on that question I recommend Christopher Bollyn’s book. “Solving 9-11”
Compared to ‘why’, ‘who’ & ‘how’ are only useful in that they may help lead to ‘why’.
That many think the ‘why’ is obvious, and slam-dunk settled (for US expansionist neocon adventures), means too many think the ‘who’ and ‘how’ remain as vaguely interesting questions only for the obsessed.
So, there is the MSM Bin Laden story, and then there’s the sanitised alternative story:
Who: The usual suspects.
How: Controlled demolition/explosives and fake video footage.
Why: Sanction US incursion into Middle East, etc. (hence leaked arab involvement…)
There is a deeper, more disturbing story, several paradigm shifts deeper down the rabbit hole.
You’ve often written words to this effect here (plus that if I knew why they were doing whatever they are doing, I would approve and help). Could you sum it up in a succinct paragraph? The suspense is killing me.
One of the few truisms by Einstein was that ‘any profound idea should be explicable to a child,’ something like that.
So, Allan, have you read Michael Hoffman’s book: ‘Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare’? Seems to me like it’d be a good primer.
I said:
“And eventually, to your dismay, you will realise why they do it, why they have to, and not only that you are powerless to do anything about it, but even if you had the power, you would probably then assist instead of undermine”
That’s IF you had the power (and we’re talking plutocratic power here), you would PROBABLY assist. It is beyond a matter of approval.
Yes, I could sum it up in a succinct paragraph.
The knowledge* is far more lethal than the suspense, which is why I think it’s better if I just drop the odd clue from time to time. 🙂 And even if you reckon you’re hard enough not to do a Walter, and could take anything I could tell you without rushing for a blue pill, it’s still better if you discover things from your own research.
And Einstein isn’t exactly quite what he seems either…
* The knowledge, yes, this is what they want the percipient to find at the bottom of the rabbit warren – along with Cassandra’s curse.
X, you sound like Cassandra with your bleak take on humanity.
Allan, others… we can pick apart moon landings, 9/11, and who built the pyramids yet those revelations only lead to more questions… To get some sense of footing re the hows/whys/whos I feel it’s important to keep zooming out in focus.
Andrew, mankind’s prospects are pretty bleak, but then again, some things most have assumed to be within them, turn out not to be.
I second your suggestion as to the way forward.
I think I sat through Barbara Honegger’s overlong presentation a few years back but I’d be interested in your take on it when you’ve got the time.
As far as the Truther Movement being infiltrated. Here’s an article that was published a short time back in Veterans Today:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/07/01/why-is-israel-controlling-9-11-troof/
VT/Gordon Duff=Disinfo – pushing the nuke theory (that a basement bomb can magically demolish a building from the top down). Well, hey, if the DEW theory has a following, why not a nuke theory? I’m surprised no-one’s yet suggested a 4-sided portcullis theory, i.e. that the steel walls (of a mostly empty building) fell into a square chasm.
B Honegger. Seems like a nice lady, but her FF coverage is relatively safe.
As to an ‘organised truth movement’, this is a contradiction in terms. Anyone interested in truth knows that you won’t get it from an organisation, because it is one of those early lessons, that organisations are not only quickly infiltrated, but they’re usally pre-emptively set up by the would-be infiltrators. Even blog comment sections are infiltrated, so the moment you have a committee deciding which ‘truths’ should be permitted, you’ve lost.
The best takeaway from Honegger’s video is that the US has been infiltrated/taken over Unfortunately, that’s deceptive in itself. Just as the towers were built to be destroyed, so the US was built to be destroyed*. The US was created by those who infiltrate it, and re-infiltrate what they’ve already infiltrated.
* This sentence has to be read extremely carefully. 99% of readers will misinterpret it – those who don’t know the mission behind the US and the NWO, etc.
Eventually you discover, not that infiltration is a big problem the world over, but that our technologically advanced civilisation itself is a construct of those who control (via pre-emptive infiltration) and harness it.
Why?
😉
I suppose ‘They Live’ and ‘The Matrix’ are allegorical clues, but there are no aliens (hyperdimensional archons, non-human subterranean overlords, etc), simulations, or anything woo woo. But there are very clever and cunning people…
X
If there are no aliens then what are the witness’s seeing? Is every single sighting of stuff in the sky doing spectacular things an optical illusion, craft made on earth, a mistake by every witness, a lie by every witness? There is a whole lot of encounters and every single one needs to be debunked logically to support their isn’t anything woo woo. I have witnessed woo woo myself. If just one out of the thousands sightings can’t be explained then woo woo can’t be ruled out.
I agree with much of what you say but I am not convinced all woo woo has been debunked buried and never needs mention do to woo woo doesn’t exist.
drud, a lot of people have ‘seen’ ghosts and demons – mermaids even.
I’m not really asking you to discount the possibility of alien life, but to consider that it is not required within the explanation as to HTWRW or ‘WTF is going on’?
Occam’s Razor is a good principle that should persuade you to exhaust your search for ‘explanations fitting the evidence’ that don’t require the introduction of aliens and/or woo woo.
Don’t worry, that still leaves some pretty mind-boggling explanations that fit the evidence.
An unidentified flying object is woo woo. If there are 10’s of thousands witness’s seeing unidentified woo woo then using Occam’s Razor, it would suggest, some woo woo maybe real woo woo. If real woo woo is involved, in say, deactivating missiles, as some suggest, then this would have a real impact on how the governments of the world deal with these events and thus an impact on HTWRW.
Interesting VT article. Only thing is that I think we have to assume Duff to be… maybe the classic LH/disinfo agent. But this means that much of his info has to be correct or nearly so. Just a word to the wise kind of a thing.
Duff does mention John O’Neill as a member of ‘the team,’ which is interesting (and true in that O’Neill was part of the op): O’Neill was actually the head of security for the WTC for more than two weeks in the run up to 9/11. (Most ‘truther’ histories avoid this fact.) His ‘death’ and ‘martyrdom’ was one of the misdirections of the ‘9/11 Truth Movement.’ I wrote an essay on this (and other subjects) back in 2010:
http://www.banditobooks.com/essay/content/3.php
It’s quite long and was done before I understood that there were no hijackers or jetliners involved in the op. I’d go back and add addendums if I knew how.
Btw, Kevin Ryan (another truther name) did a long essay on WTC, misdirecting us on who was in charge of security that day. When I started a conversation with him he was all smiles and thank-yous. Then I linked him to the above essay and never heard from him again. This was 2010 (I think), and about when I realized that truther big shots were mostly plants/moles.
After many years I just scanned my O’Neill essay. Boy, was I naive! Almost all the ‘troofers’ I mention as having corresponded with have turned out to be dirty.
As I responded to ‘X” there is plenty of evidence that 9/11 was a Nuclear Event such as molten rock near the base of WTCs 1,2 and 7, Radioactive byproducts as recorded by USGS, high incidence of cancers such as leukemia and other types of cancer that can not be attributed to exposure to asbestos or benzine, most of the structures of WTC 1,2 and 7 along with office furniture and occupants either pulverized into fine microscopic dust or many cases vaporized.
The latter is probably the reason why they never mention the casualties of the subway station that once existed under the WTC which is now part of what is called “Silverstein Valley” i.e the “glacier formations” that they miraculously “found” after excavating the site that no-one found when the WTC was first constructed:
https://youtu.be/msUbJILO1BE
Lucky Larry strikes again!
Anyway I believe that A&E going on and on about “nanothermite” is just a cover for what actually happened.
Also calling Gordon Duff a “disinfo agent” without addressing the actual evidence is typical of the so called “debunkers’ who are themselves disinfo agents.
Personally I don’t agree with everything he writes but he does make a compelling case regarding the destruction of the WTC with actual documents supporting it. Unlike others who claim nanothermite was used with only anecdotal or hearsay “evidence” at best such as power downs and mysterious upgrades etc.
Ignoring evidence of high levels of radiation reported at the Israeli Embassy prior to 9/11 and at Fresh Kills on Stanton Island afterward.
As far as John O’Neil’s part in all of this. I agree with you totally and that he was a “martyr” always crying the “wolf” of Islamic Terrorism and UBL in particular who’s job was misdirection and like other participants in the 9/11 Production like Barbara Olson, Mohamed Atta and a cast of others either living under an assumed name or have been conveniently disposed of after the credits rolled.
By the way. I believe there are good people working in the 9/11 Truth Movement even though it has been extensively infiltrated by moles working assiduously in either covering up the truth or misleading people into believing that conventional explosives which includes thermite could cause the destruction wrought to the WTCs.
I myself have worked in a N”G”O that was subverted by our “friends” from the dark side so I write from personal experience.
Dimitri Kalzehov makes the point in his book that it would require sixty tons of conventional explosives to bring each tower down and that if thermite or any thermite derivative such as “nanothermite” would have turned the WTCs into huge sparklers.
Robin Adair,
Thanks for suggesting the article very informative info. I will read it again.
Dee Cota
She certainly blinks, squints and does strange things with her mouth while listening and then answering the guys question. I spot checked a few times for her demeanor elsewhere and don’t see that happening.
Allan, to get the video URL at a precise moment, right-select the video and select “Copy video URL at current time” – this is good for Firefox, but other browsers should do it to.
I did that here as an example, notice how t=xxxx is appended at the end.
https://youtu.be/sALa-E56Zms?t=10710