The way it went with my exchange at the ‘Forum Borealis’ comment section on Youtube is instructive enough, and important enough, I think, to warrant a follow up. This guy, ‘Al Borealis,’ is very tight with the Secret Space Program (SSP) ‘community,’ and has had most of them on his podcast, many multiple times. As I’ve said before, this is one way to track an ‘op,’ and list the the ‘alt media’ personalities that are participants. Some, but not many, may be unwitting participants (UPs); as long as a ‘researcher’ goes along with the agenda of the op, he/she may be ‘honest’, i.e., not a state mole.
One ‘problem’ in finding an honest guest, say, in Forum Borealis, is in finding a geniune expert on space and space travel who does not understand that the Apollo missions were fraudulent. Michael Schratt, the interviewee in the above podcast, grunted in assent when Borealis opined that ‘Apollo hoaxers’ just need more information in order to smarten up. Mmmm.
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You all are mostly familiar with my observations/research re the whole SSP issue, via my visit to the 2015 conference and the blogs describing it. (If you are not familiar, go back to this time frame and peruse my SSP posts.)
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What I hope to do here in this wind-up is show you how to tell for sure when you’re dealing with an agenda-driven state mole. As you know from my SSP posts, many of the SSP ‘names’ refused to answer (in person or via email) the simple question I asked them about their views of NASA, space travel, and related issues. It’s the same question I posed in the ‘Forum Borealis’ comment section, and which was never answered or even dealt with by Borealis in the lengthy exchange, in spite of my repeated requests that he do so.
If you wade through the obvious misdirection in Borealis’s ‘replies’, I hope you find yourself coming to the conclusion that for the guy to go to the lengths he does in order to deflect readers from thinking about my simple query — keeping in mind that the score of other SSP ‘names’ did exactly the same thing — the question itself must be of some import.
Not even counting my challenge that Borealis answer my Open Letter to him, I repeated the question at least five times, and each time his misdirection got more desperate. Here are the last two posts, my comment and his answer:
A.C. Weisbecker1 day ago
Just to make it perfectly clear, here is the question I tried to ask at the 2015 SSP conference, and which was never answered by ANY of the attendees, even after email back and forths with all of them (some declined to answer, the rest misdirected)…
…this is from one of my blog posts on the conference: (Here’s one of the questions I would have asked had the Q and A not been cancelled at the last minute – with me leaning forward in the first row:
‘If you all believe that there is a SSP and it’s been zooming around the solar system for decades, give me a reason why NASA would spend 100s of billions on any given program when it can fake it for the price of a feature film?’ And also given that any data that any of the programs would give them must be old hat by now. How come no one (of SSP researchers) has ever asked that, and why do they all believe the Apollo hoax, or say they do….
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I look at your long answer to my previous comment and hope your readers do so as well. There is not one answer to any of my questions or important points-made. I’ve found that this sort of misdirection is exactly to be expected from alt media state moles. I of course could be wrong about you: How about proving it by actually answering my question?
Remember that this is my fifth repitition of the same query! You would think he’d be embarrassed to dodge it again, or, like many of his cohorts, just refuse to respond. No. Give his response a look:
Forum Borealis5 hours ago
LOL! You seiously think we are doing deliberate disinfo? Are you not aware that it is a trait of lunacy to believe that everyone with a different conclusion from ourselves has reached it by sinister means, and that in secret they agree with our own paradigm. Sane people avoid discussing with such people. So if you genuinely are interested in an honest truth-seeking exchange of ideas, the first thing you need to realize is that there’s as many paradigms in the world as there is people. No one walks around with what you believe to be true in their head, trying to hide it from you or influence you to alter your own. Only fundamentalists (of any stripe) suffer from such extremely infantile paranoid and megalomanic misconceptions. [Does anyone disagree that this outburst is pure balderdash? What does it mean when someone takes the time to concoct it?]
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The reason I harp on this issue is its… what?… right… its implications. (I mean aside from pegging Borealis as a state operative.) To put it as briefly and as ‘operationally’ as I can, it appears that either man has not and will not leave planet earth at all (space flight is fraudulent)… or… the chemical rocket programs (as seen in the media) is a distraction from anti-gravity technology (possibly back-engineered from alien crafts), which has allowed man to explore the solar system at will (the breakthrough likely came in the 1950s). I’m pretty sure the truth is one or the other. This imagery I dug up from the Mercury Program days would seem to indicate the former – or at least indicate that the fraud goes back to NASA’s start — since this capsule could never survive re-entry into our atmosphere (the video shows that heat shields would not work).
The above is still another either/or issue that is never brought up at SSP conferences and podcasts.
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Addendum: A closely related issue is raised in my dealings with the alt media ‘names’ who have done (often excellent) exposés on the Apollo fraud — as opposed to belief in the Apollo fraud, as we find in Borealis and his SSP celebs (including, I’m afraid, Richard Dolan, whom I otherwise find valuable). The former, types like Bart Sibrel (who never responded to my many info-laden missives), David Percy, Marcus Allen, and, my favorite, Jarrah White, who deserved an Open Letter of his own, are unique in their subtle manner of misdirection. They just ignore the subject of current space frauds (like Spacex), and assume their fans will do likewise. This is quite clear in my exchanges with them, wherein I included my videos proving fraud. Their misdirection was not as blatant as Borealis’s, but had the same avoid-the-issue effect. (Their fans will likely not look into current frauds, since the heroes haven’t.)
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This post is likewise worth a look; it seeks to relate the issues of the SSP and the Apollo fraud. If you don’t see how the SSP group dovetails with the Apollo fraud names, think about it: The PTB are seeking to misdirect everyone (all researchers) interested in ‘space’ and ‘space flight’ — especially those who see Apollo for what it was — by having the various ‘heroes’ avoid the subject of current frauds, and the evidence thereof.
This is why moles like Borealis will burn their precious time with lengthy though meaningless responses to the question I keep repeating. Truly, and please take this to the bank: When someone (like Borealis) sees fit to waste his and your time with utter misdirection, you know they – and most of their ‘colleagues’ – are on the other side. They are dirty.
Finally someone at Forum Borealis — a regular listener, I presume — got disgusted and called Borealis out on his rambling crapola:
@Forum Borealis Misdirection is all I see in ALL your responses. Quite obvious really for those paying attention.
@Forum Borealis Is this all you got? If your serious about truth, please answer the questions and acknowledge the star visibility issues the astronauts can’t seem to get right.
Last night was clear and beautiful where I am. Here it is, In Brief, a very short video.
Allan