Sorry for the long silence, folks, but I’m having a tough time of it with this one. Too much stuff! I’ve decided on another Open Letter, this one to Sam Harris. If you’re not familiar with him: He’s an interesting character and worthy of note, if only for what he represents. I’ll be a few more days in working this out. In the meantime, if you like to follow my thinking you might take a look at this guy. He’s quite the ‘intellectual,’ along the lines of Christopher Hitchens. If you do a search on ‘Sam Harris’ on Youtube you’ll get the idea.
Bear with me and notice in the credits that Franco’s last name is spelled with an ‘o’ at the end.
What pushed me over the edge with Harris is his recent eBook titled Lying, in which he assures us that he had an epiphany while in college which resulted in his making the point in his life of never lying. According to Sam Harris, even ‘white lies’ are extremely destructive and should never be indulged in. And so forth. Right: When I come across hypocrisy of this magnitude… I just cannot help myself. (In Water Time I make the point that there is no English word or term to describe monumental hypocrisy; ‘Unspeakable’ was the best I could do.)
So stay tuned.
Meanwhile, here’s a little (very little) ‘video-photo’ from the last couple days. And hey, thanks for the encouragement.
Allan
Oh. One of you sent me an interesting link. The person was wondering if it’s for real…. I’ll give you a moment to check it out…
Many of you will be way ahead of me here, but this is my take on it: It’s part of the PTB A.I. algorithm that keeps track of Who Believes What, no matter how ridiculous, and, further, What They Do About It. In other words, the key part of this hilarious piece of work is not so much who listens to it, but what they do immediately afterwards. Like me, now, writing this sentence.
In this grab from Pumping Iron his name is spelled with a ‘u.’
One more thing. I re-watched an old documentary called Pumping Iron (1977), which I recalled from back then. (Pretty entertaining, especially re Arnold.) I watched it to see how they’d handle famous bodybuilder Franco Colombo’s last name, which (in our ‘current reality’) is now Colombu, with a ‘u’. I may have mentioned that as kid I got Franco’s autograph, in which he spelled it correctly, with the ‘o’.
Interesting. In the credits and even on the cover of a magazine from back then it is spelled the ‘new’ way, with a ‘u’. But the three times Franco’s name is mentioned (quite clearly) in the flick, it’s ‘Colombo’ with an ‘o.’ Taken in context of what I know to be ‘historically’ true, this is inexplicable.
Credits from Pumping Iron. A ‘u’ now, yet in the film it’s spoken with an ‘o.’ There is ‘real’ nonsense going on here.
I’ve also been delving into the ‘changes’ made to the Bible. I have to tell you that there is no doubt whatsoever that it’s different ‘now.’ It may be worth your while to give this a look.
Bill Bean is a well-know Bible thumper. Take your pick on these videos/podcasts.
A grab from a CERN music video. Why the fuck is a physicist holding a ‘Mandela’ sign?
The so called Mandela effect seems to largely be limited to that which can be controlled by the big monopolies of international intelligence eg. google. I noticed the changes made to Star Wars character C3PO, his leg being silver now. In much footage it is seen this way but old model kits by MPC show him as he was, this has not been changed yet but much else has. Being a musician who has to rely on memory for page after page of manuscript and minute detail therein am not buying into the contrarian ideation that everyone has a highly fallible and mutable memory. I think that this is part of the game; to sow self doubt and mistrust by extension. How other manifestations are achieved, I don’t know but, wifi would have seemed like magic not too long ago as would air gap jumping with computing ( OOB-CC’s, Out -of -band covert channels) is it possible to apply this nature of lateral hack to the printed word or video? I feel that the answer will lie between selectively reframing history and technology:not Magic. Nice to have you back.
Good points. I’d sure love to know the How of it though.
My whole concept was more that there are really only just one or two main phenomena at play behind the hundreds/thousands of ME examples. It feels like a huge number of distinct examples, but they are really predominantly just the result of only a few categories of memory phenomena. Like how I placed the lion and lamb example in the category as the Ed McMahon example (where an existing association in our memories is taken advantage of) or the Berenstain Bears example in the same category as the Mister Rogers one (where something caused people to commit an altered version to memory). We could probably fit the vast majority into these two buckets. Granted, I’m not saying that they ALL have innocent explanations. Big picture, I just see the explanations that fall short of CERN/changing timelines to be far more probable, and consider most (not all) ME to have an innocent explanation with only a few core root causes.
For that reason, the sheer multitude of ME examples is less convincing as evidence for me. If we accept that a memory phenomenon is at work, then no matter how many examples are found we are only looking at one cause. The bottom line is that people have far too much confidence in their memories, and that is even without someone trying to manipulate or take advantage of that overconfidence. Mandela effect videos highlight the neurological difference between directly asking someone “What does Isaiah 11:6-7 say?” versus feeding them images of lions with lambs, telling them “many people” remember it this way, but saying that NOW the verse says wolf, not lion. I’d venture to guess that <1% of people would be able to answer what Isaiah 11:6-7 says, but after you show them the ME video, the number of people who will claim to have remembered will make a tremendous jump…probably at least 20% of people now claiming to have remembered what it said all along. It is a trick on your mind, at least most of them.
Mandela dying may have been real and covered up by TPTB, I cannot be sure. That one would actually have some real motive behind it for TPTB, and it would make sense why leaked reports of his death would have had to be wiped from existence. That is media control, not something supernatural.
Well Eric, there is no way to change your mind so how about some more ad hockery in explaining this (since you again bring up Ed McMahon):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOYJmN7teww
If you look at the comments you’ll see how far you have to stretch to keep this one ‘honest.’
Usually I have felt as though you go on the facts and evidence, but this is one where I feel as though you are the one who is unwilling to change their mind in the face of solid, logical and clear explanation. You are more quick to swallow the supernatural than to admit that there are innocent and/or logical explanations for the vast majority of ME. Even the ones that are not innocent are far more likely to be media/gov manipulation than supernatural. Several orders of magnitude more likely. I simply do not understand your take on this, from someone with your pedigree. I have not seen you make a real argument of your own in support beyond the guy holding up a piece of paper at CERN.
There are articles where the old execs for PCH say that they liked the confusion, and that it was almost like free publicity. While Ed never delivered any big checks for American Family Publishers, he WAS known as the spokesman for a sweepstakes company. Several jokes were written into TV shows of the time like Roseanne and Boy Meets World where Ed McMahon was delivering giant checks. This is where people get the memory from; obviously Roseanne was a huge show for the masses at the time. Yet PCH was the giant check company. That’s the explanation in a nutshell right there. Popular culture associated him with giant checks even though the sweepstakes company he was actually associated with was the lesser one that didn’t do giant checks. It is horribly compounded by the fact that he was actually a spokesman for the LESSER of the two sweepstakes companies, the company that is no longer around today, and the fact that there was confusion about this even back then!
As for the Johnny Carson check, that is a prop. A joke. And think about this: It has already been established that American Family Publishers did not use giant checks. So if Carson wants to make a sweepstakes joke and he wants to have the funny giant check prop (remember it’s a pop culture gag), the only giant sweepstakes check they’d be able to find would be from who? Publishers Clearinghouse. It has already been established that there was confusion about this, even back then. The two or three documented places where people refer to Ed being linked to Publishers Clearinghouse are due to the fact that there was confusion on this, even back then. Ed being on Roseanne with the giant check is proof that this had become a popular culture gag by that point, and forever linked him to PCH in most people’s minds.
These type of ME are just obscure, yet surprising facts. Hey did you know Ed McMahon was actually AFP, not PCH? Oh, interesting. Not supernatural. It is only the Mandela effect context that is making anyone think this is some kind of supernatural event, rather than simple misunderstanding (35 years in retrospect). Many people were misinformed about it even back then, so why would anyone 35 years later be so certain that they knew exactly which company he was the spokesman for? Or why would it mean anything about a timeline shift? People were unclear about this back then, and they are unclear about it still. Same old timeline. It is the same case over and over of people being way too confident in their memory, especially after being slipped a detail 35 years later. It is well established that this is how memory works, every time you access that memory you incorporate new information. Under the Mandela effect context where we are being fed the detail of Publishers Clearinghouse again, this only strengthens any misunderstanding we may have originally had.
This one is just horribly confounded by the fact that even in the 1980’s, people had the wrong impression about which sweepstakes company he was associated with. It is like if Mr. Pibb had a spokesman and then 35 years later everybody thought he was actually the spokesman for Dr. Pepper, because he became a college football announcer and Dr. Pepper sponsors college football. Same color, same taste, same product. There are even less ways to distinguish between sweepstakes companies. This one is kind of a double whammy of people having the related association of the giant check (thanks to TV/popular culture, yet PCH was the giant check company), AND people committed it to memory the wrong way in the first place.
With all that said, I have never denied that some of these may actually involve real fuckery. But we would be talking about media or government fuckery. The supernatural explanation just doesn’t hold any water. It is presented alongside ME, but it makes no actual sense.
I feel that the arguments that I have put forth have been strong, but you have been suspiciously unwilling to even consider the non-supernatural ideas. Your responses on this have been hard to understand from a motivation standpoint. You yourself have shown Miles Mathis as being a very valuable limited hangout with useful information, yet in this case you put forth a MM article as though the very fact that he said something means it must not be true. This feels like misdirection; you yourself have stressed how the MM LH still has shared tons of valuable truths. Yet here you present it as though MM = 100% untruth. You just haven’t made any kind of an actual argument on this. A guy holding a sign at CERN is not evidence of anything, and it is certainly not more compelling than the arguments just laid out related to memory phenomena. This is not ad hoc; these explanations all tie back to the same basic memory phenomena.
I will be checking out for awhile on this site. This thread has left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and not exactly sure what to think about it all.
I couldn’t get thru your whole ramble but I will say this: You claim you’re not using ad hockery after a ridiculous, completely ad hoc explanation for why Carson would haul out a PCH check for 1 million and connect it directly with Ed McMahon (who didn’t bring it b/c he’s ‘on vacation.) You have a different convoluted explanation for everything mentioned. That’s the very definition of ‘ad hoc.’ (Using ‘memory lapses’ is like supporting the various 9/11 official story absurdities by using the term ‘conspiracy theory’, i.e., as if that explains everything.)
To Eric~
1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.”
….Human wisdom, brilliance, insight–they are of no help if the LORD is against you.
Kind regards,
~Kimberlie
Bye Allan, you have truly lost me
By the way, this is the comment where I lost all respect for you. You challenged me on something, I laid out a strong case, and you ridiculed it and did not counter me on anything. This is why it feels like you have an agenda. You are not actually making a case…you are presenting something as true and ridiculing those who actually make a strong case for why you are wrong. You have yet to actually make a case for why you are RIGHT; this is why I lean towards you having an agenda. Rather than actually refute, you just ridicule my response as a whole. Then it doesn’t actually matter that I slammed your “unexplainable” example right back in your face as EASILY explainable and understandable.
But this has become so twisted for you (whether you are intentionally twisting or not) that “explainable” has come to make you actually MORE confident. Do you see how messed up that is? You see my ability to explain these things easily as being more proof to your side. That is the opposite of logic, or rational thinking. You think it’s magic because you want to think it is magic. If that is what this blog has become, then it has become a complete waste of everyone’s time.
The fact that thorough ad hoc explanations exist is not proof that such explanations are false. I can’t believe this is actually your point. “You are able to easily explain this supernatural thing, therefore I more firmly believe that the supernatural thing must be real.” That is MADNESS.
You are either agenda-driven, or you are so far gone that you think people being able to prove you wrong must make you right. What the heck happened to you Allan? This is sad. Did you get so used to arguing with people about 9/11 that you think opposing view-points must make you right? I really wish it weren’t like this, but man…you are just not making sense anymore. I almost hope you are just pushing an agenda, because otherwise I just do not know what to say about your thinking. I defended you a bunch of times, but this is not defensible. This puts me right in the “Allan’s crazy” crowd…a place I never thought I would find myself. It sucks. This just sucks. You believe in ME being supernatural because…you want to? Because? You have seen people provide rational explanations. You believe it is supernatural because? This is where there has only been misdirection and disrespect. You believe it is supernatural because? The best I can figure is it’s because that is what you want to believe, and you will not be shaken from that belief. You feeding the lion/lamb detail to the Amish guy is just proof you are trying to confirm it to yourself. Confirmation bias. This is the point that most people would look in the mirror. Not you, apparently. Heaven forbid Allan actually consider that he might be wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/11/21/the-curious-case-of-ed-mcmahon-and-the-publishers-clearing-house/#6c303d7d1b70 … I think the angry eric is saying that by 1991 the public had already confused the two companies PCH and ACH…ACH being the one Ed was working with…so Carson using it was just in line with what the public understood…so his joke would work…and the million was also NBC payout for not giving Letterman the Tonight Show…which at that time was privately decided. Carson’s appearance has been viewed as his personal disapproval of the NBC exec’s choice.
My sentiments exactly! Who is Weisbecker? Where is Weisbecker?
Who is Kimberlie?
I have a paranoid mind and it is starting to look like
tweedle dum and tweedle dee
working on a psyop spree
YEP
I don’t think it would be a stretch at all in fact it would be quite logical to suggest that due to all the occult imaginery at CERN that some of the powers that be are themselves occult ~ magick practioners. CERN is attempting in science what the occultists have claimed for centuries which is to understand ~ control the nature of reality. Maybe it’s a joint venture of Science and metaphysics :).
occult
/ɒˈkʌlt,ˈɒkʌlt/Submit
noun
1.
mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena.
“a secret society to study alchemy and the occult”
Magick
Not to be confused with stage “magic.” Magick is art of utilizing natural forces around us to bring about change. Magick is neutral, neither good, nor evil. The practitioner decides how they would like to focus this natural energy.
Magick is a powerful tool that you can use to bring about positive changes in your life.
Hi Nigel~
You say that you are of the understanding magick is a powerful tool than you can use to bring about positive changes in your life. That’s a very broad statement. What is positive to one person can be negative to another. Please clarify what you mean…. what context? Are you saying you can use magick to bring about – say – a new car or to cause someone to think differently about something they were completely opposed to and now are not? Or worldly PTB to bring about rainy weather or drought? Just curious.
You say magick is neutral, neither good, nor evil. Whoa!, that’s quite a statement that opens the door for all kinds of conjecture. Got an example that makes it neutral?
Thank you and kind regards,
~Kimberlie
Hi kimberley, I only copied and pasted a dictionary definition of the topic occult brought up by Alan.. Sorry I should have quoted, my mistake.
To Kimberlie: Dear, I cannot get past your belief that innocent people, good people, are going to burn in your hell because they were born somewhere remote and never heard of Jesus. That’s the simplest way to put it. That you don’t see a problem with this leaves me shaking my head at an otherwise smart and kind person’s mentality. I could go on but will only suggest you view any of Sam Harris’s videos on the subject of religion. I suggest him because he’s a great example of how the PTB suck you in and (in subtext) lie their asses off while telling you ‘the truth.’
The way this thread is going is one of the reasons I have trouble concentrating on writing an essay these days.
Hi Allan~
Thank you for the reference to Sam Harris video. I’ve listened to it. He is obviously put there to run interference on the truth – or just run interference to get people’s eyes off the ball… he is nonsense to the nth degree.
I did not say that innocent people, good people are going to burn in my hell because they were born somewhere remote and never heard of Jesus….. (MY hell?). What I said is people are going to believe the lie rather than the truth. And because of this, they will go to Hell and be eternally separated from God.
God has made a way that ALL may receive salvation. Allan, there will come a time when ALL knees shall bow and ALL tongues will proclaim Jesus Christ IS Lord of lords and King of kings. This will be a time when it is not, “let’s make a deal”, but rather, “this IS the deal!” Be not deceived…. God is not mocked. In the book of Jeremiah, God warns His people because they have forgotten Him (ref. Jeremiah 18:15), forsaken Him (ref. Jer 19:4,5), and have hardened their necks and would not hear His Words (ref Jer 19:15); therefore, He will bring all plagues he has pronounced against His people (ref. Jer 19:15). Why does God warn His people? He desires them to repent —to return everyone from his evil way, and make their ways and works good (ref. Jer 18:11). Right now He is giving you that opportunity. Turn to Jesus with all your heart before it is too late. Don’t be like the children of Judah during the time of Jeremiah who said, “There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imaginations of his heart” (Jer 18:12). Surely, you see now that God is turning people over to their own devices. Allan, do not procrastinate to where you go past the point of no return. Commit your life to Jesus…. a simple faith as tiny as a mustard seed will change your life for eternity.
God made man to have a free choice….. we are not automatons. We have chosen to murder babies, we have chosen to turn from the natural affections into all sorts of perversions, we have chosen to go into wars, we have chosen to deny God.
The fool has said in his heart there is no God. It will be a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.
Very kind regards,
~Kimberlie
Kimberlie I hope you are quite sure about the changes that have occurred in your bibles. I have no way of knowing either way, if it is there it has been shown to you not me. I do not see it.
If you are not sure, you should not say such things as you feed what I see as some serious delusional thinking. I keep an open mind but this whole area of investigation and so called truth seeking feels really bad to me.
This is all boiling down to a spiritual war, and this wizard truther/blogger has become not a LH in this war, but a useful idiot. Deluded. Professing himself wise, he has become a fool. I suspect I will be unsubbed or will unsub shortly.
very kind regards to a very kind person.
Who is Weisbecker? Where is Weisbecker?
Who is Kimberlie?
I have a paranoid mind and it is starting to look like
tweedle dum and tweedle dee
working on a psyop spree
Hi Marsh Collins~
I don’t particularly like what I’ve seen/read here concerning the changes to the Bible regarding ME. I know what I know though when I see every single Bible I possess CHANGED. Wineskins changed to bottles, trespass/trespasses to debt/debtors, lamb to wolf,….there’s more. Publisher’s Clearing House IS with Ed McMahon, Sex IN the City (not AND), in the neighborhood (not THIS)…..
I have no idea how this was done – perhaps something to do with CERN, DWAVE, Neural Lace…. (I suggest you look in these).
Satan is having a field day right now most likely due to the FACT America and much of the world has turned its back on God, on Jesus. The world is demanding lies…. the Bible (God’s Word) states God will give those who demand the lie over to strong delusion (lies).
Who what when where ………………… matters not. The why does matter though. This is Spiritual Warfare: This is a war for our souls! Evil against Good. Satan would love nothing more than to have ALL of mankind – God’s creation – to NOT believe in God, in Jesus, and for ALL of mankind be destroyed. Period.
I put my trust in God, I put my salvation in Christ Jesus. There is none other. It does not matter what the world proclaims….
In reading all your comments here, you appear to have a fairly good handle on the Bible. With a SINCERE heart, ask the Lord God to reveal to you His Truth.
He will. Perhaps not all at once – but little by little the veil will be lifted and you will see the truth, hear the truth, and then craving only the truth – through the Holy Spirit of God – you will be able to discern truth from lie.
Our salvation can be attained ONLY through Jesus Christ.
Very kind regards to you, Marsh Collins!
~Kimberlie
https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/did-isaiah-116-once-say-lion-shall-lie-down-with-lamb/
https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/lord_traditional_king_james.html
Are you deliberately misleading people here?
Your love for the hunter gatherer Amazon tribe just warm the heart.
When I was 12 years old one fine Sunday I was drug off to church as usual, and the sermon of the day was how we were all going to burn in hell if we didn’t shape up. That was my awakening to the reality of religion. Put it in human terms and say you live at home with an angry vengeful father who continuously tells you he loves you but if you don’t shape up he is going to send you down to the basement to be tortured for the rest of your life. Oh he won’t do the dirty work himself of course. He will let his crazy brother do it for him down in the basement. So your only real option is to try to appease the old goat by pretending to love him. Fear is the motivation of course. But we can’t admit that or papa will be angry again. How in the world people can’t see that flaws in this so called God amazes me. Luckily when someone finds the courage to think this out they can find the truth that it is all BS. This is not to say I don’t believe in an after life because I do. I believe we live in a prison planet and are trapped here until we wake up to this fact and take our freedom in our own hands. Reincarnation is our prison. Always having to come back and try again. Without our memories or course. Once you wake up to the fact that you don’t have to come back and just say no you start your path to freedom.
given the crap that going on I find the thought of god’s wrath at some point quite comforting. Guess it depends on perspective.
Good analogy. Right out of the Sam Harris/Hitchens playbook, by the way. (I’m not accusing you of borrowing the imagery; it’s so obviously correct that I assume many have thought this way.)
The Noose is getting tighter, the deception more grandiose and ridiculous… and winter is still here, the lake is frozen, i need to go surfing… sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy……
I’m watching that “truth unsealed” with David Zublick video(the “interesting link”) (from the beginning, not where the link above starts), and I made it less than a minute before I was laughing so hard it was difficult to listen to the rest of it. I will, but WOW. Super bonkers town. Like, do people seriously believe that shit?
11 minutes in. I can’t take the stupidity anymore. I’ll watch the part pointed to in the link…
I’m at 17 minutes and I’m out. The stupidity run thickish here. Obama in Guantanamo bay? Osama Bin Laden killing faked? This thing is like an alt-right wet dream mashup of every conspiracy theory horse fucking shit thing you could think of.
I agree but I somehow doubt you understand WHY they (PTB) would subject us to that level of bull shit. See, in your comment you’ve showed an ancillary reason for the BS: You appear to believe bin Laden WAS killed in 2011 by a Seal Team on Obama’s orders. Bin Laden in fact died in 2001 and you can even find govt references to his death if you look deep enough. By tying in the absurdity of the ‘trials’ with the real history, they discredit the history itself. But the main reason for the links (I’m pretty sure) is to keep track of who views it and their reactions.
I also got a kick out of him dropping the 2011 Bin Laden Pakistan thing like it is established fact rather than a complete joke of a story.
Getting back to that video you linked to, about top secret military justice and so on, it is really frightening to me that these Trump supporters find this “covert info” somehow reassuring. That a supposedly constitutional republic would engage in Star Chamber type justice and secret trials a la the Stalinist “good old days” of the NKVD, and that all of us proles are supposed to cheer; well, it is just mind-boggling. Even the likes of Hillary Clinton deserves a fair trial.
That’s a helluva good point and which I just now realized is another reason for the crapola. We’re supposed to cheer for an illegal trial! Great catch.
Let me tell you something Allan…you cannot stay on your steak while your gov is messing eveything all around the world…the CIA is behind so many dictactor its just amazing, just count the number of puppet drug dealer President you sponsored in south America, and after that they blame the russian for Trump…lol… the fuking CIA should be turn down but the majority of US citizen are too moron to just begin to realise and the tiny minority wich are critic just do nothing…they read or write book, they watch or they are doing video…thank you so much for the mess…and like a bad kid you will not clean your room…just good enough to start fire…what a horrible country shame on all of you….worst than Rome…I just dream to leave North America…im too close of this evil beast…it stink
I’m not sure I understand this one, Jean-F….
My Guess …You are supposed to get out of your motor home and start a real revolution instead of just making videos and blog posts. Big risk just speaking up and no other realistic means to respond.
I do wonder does the motivation come from love of truth, hatred of liars , and what part is the intellectual challenge, the thrill of seeing through the lies, making them squirm a little bit, shining the light where no one expected it. The combat and verbal jousting.
Nothing can stop what’s unfolding. This is world wide not just U.S. based, what is anyone doing about it.
Maybe because in july it will be the 50th anniversary of the first Apo-lol mission but it seem the thing are moving faster and not for the best…the gilet jaune in France really look like a fake revolution, the riot in Haiti point the fact even if children of Venezuela are starving to death their predident give 2 billion to Haiti, Trump act like USA have to live in a silo (political US isolation mindset is never a good sign )…coming back to Apo-lol how somebody can believe this BS when the dirt under all the LEM is’nt disturb at all, it seem not even a leaf blower move the tiniest grain of moon dust…the fallen are laughing loud
What are you expecting, a crater under that thing? How much thrust do you imagine they were using? “The gravity on the Moon is about 17% what it is on the Earth. So if you weigh 200 pounds on Earth, you will weigh 34 pounds on the Moon.” How far would fine particulate matter be propelled from the thrust? How hard packed is the dust? Btw people that don’t understand how earth rocks got on the moon don’t understand how the moon was formed. The Russians are really trolling the scientifically illiterate with all these ridiculous anti US govt. conspiracy theories. And the internet confirmation bias makes the ignorant even more ignorant. Truth and facts are not a eat what you want buffet.
Dude the LEM weight was 32,000 pound…divide by 6 so it mean on earth you will have to land a 5333 pound (over 2 tons) object without disturbing not a grain of dust or sand under…i dont ask for a crater just a a bit of dust disturbed…under all the LEM its like not even a hair dryer made a circle of displaced moon dust…total baloney..you seem to enjoy baloney…bonne appetit
Apollo 11
Lunar Module Spacecraft and Subsystems
The lunar module was a two-stage vehicle designed for space operations near and on the Moon. The spacecraft mass of 15103 kg (33296.4 lbs) was the total mass of the LM ascent and descent stages including propellants (fuel and oxidizer). The dry mass of the ascent stage was 2445 kg (5390.3 lbs) and it held 2376 kg (5238.1 lbs) of propellant. The descent stage dry mass (including stowed surface equipment) was 2034 kg (4484.2 lbs) and 8248 kg (18,183.7 lbs) of propellant were onboard initially. The ascent and descent stages of the LM operated as a unit until staging, when the ascent stage functioned as a single spacecraft for rendezvous and docking with the command and service module (CSM). The descent stage comprised the lower part of the spacecraft and was an octagonal prism 4.2 meters across and 1.7 m thick.
Was this meant as a riposte to Jean-F’s point? If so, I would submit it did not do its duty.
Even if the mass was 10,000 pound at landing it mean a ton to land on earth…try to land a one ton object without displace fine dust under…the major thrust was provide by descent engine
The russians also are professional space liar…just check this pathetic piece of stop motion production: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAPBRvd8OTY&t=1s
Yep, and a good example of why the Russians kept their traps shut about the Apollo fraud. this shit is still going on, with the Chinese faking it too. It does make you wonder if man has actually been to ‘space.’ This old NASA video i found still bugs me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBuEyZHIYIU
That capsule could not have survived re-entry and there were no design changes before Alan Shepard et al went up.
As a believer in the ME, I have a question for this fantastically interesting group of people .
Does anyone have a personal ME story. By that I mean something that has changed in their own life that only affects them? A personal ME story??
That’s a helluva good point. I assume the popular culture MEs reflect only those changes that we all can see, and that the same effect happens to all of us. This might be the provenance of some classic ‘he said, she said’ situations, wherein people who are close have genuinely different memories. (Usually, one of them is just flat lying, though.)
Not a real believer in ME, but I do think some people would attribute my story to ME (I just think it is an example of media control). Here is the story: I saw the live announcement in 2011 of Bin Laden being killed by Obama. Setting aside how that official story is bogus, I DISTINCTLY remember Obama having a very noticeable and ~5 second long “glitch” while reading that speech. My eyes were not 100% open at the time, but I was still notably off-put by this glitch. It was like something in Obama’s mind snapped and he bizarrely went blank for a few seconds. I later looked at YouTube for videos of this, and there are ZERO examples on the internet of this glitch ever happening during this speech in videos. My assumption is that the media and/or government just edited all versions to remove this happening, but you could certainly chalk it up to something like ME. Meaning I remember something that “reality” disagrees with.
Your research opened my eyes to things that I would not have had the insight , tenacity, and intellect to dig up. (especially the extent of LH ownership of truth “media”). You take mandela seriously so that gives me pause. The vids I watched just scream fraud, psyop and manipulation but I am going to take a good look and try to understand. Do you think Bill Bean is honest? I took a pretty good look at the Bible so called mandela effects and saw nothing.
You seek truth with no filter and no limits. I filter my world view (blinders on if you wish), and do not reach for what I do not believe I can understand and for what I suspect is delusional malevolence. My filters (blinders if you wish), include…… I’m still on point,….. its how my mind works, its my minds limits of enquiry.
Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,
when they say to you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek God?
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie
There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders;
I will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God
You looked at the bible and saw nothing? Pretty much says it all. I mean even I can see the changes and I’m not a believer in its devine provenance. Did you read anything I wrote lately?
every word
…and you ‘saw nothing’? what can I say? I’m not going to do your research for you but it appears you’re not paying attention. If tomorrow you woke up unable to find any reference to ‘Moby Dick’ as a title and found that Melville did write a book about whaling, but the title is ‘The White Whale’, what would your reaction be? ‘Shit, i remember it wrong?’
The lion becoming a wolf in the bible is like that for many many people. And dozens of other changes.
The Lion & Lamb concept has existed outside of the Bible though. “April goes in like a lion and out like a lamb.” We remember the pairing between lion and lamb and there is even a little bit of alliteration there, so when someone presents us with a Bible phrase and they say that reality has shifted and it now says wolf and lamb it can be very seductive. There are even paintings between lions and lambs related to Easter, which is usually in April (remember the famous phrase about April), so lion and lamb becomes a concept that we associate and we associate with religion (Easter/Bible).
You can easily see how these things can become tied together in your memory, and then someone presents you with a Bible verse that instead pairs a WOLF and a lamb, and it is very seductive if they are telling you in the same breath that this has “changed”. But I am not hard-headed enough to think that I have a perfect and accurate memory of what Isaiah chapter 11 verse 6 & 7 have always said. Same thing with Berenstain Bears. I pride myself on being a pretty smart guy, but there is no reason why I would have made any special note of the strange spelling when I was little and I read those books. By the way, the pairing of a wolf and a lamb makes a heck of a lot of sense in and of itself. Those two creatures really are predator and prey. I am not a specialist on the book of Isaiah, so even if I personally thought it used to say lion, it is not something I could say with Supreme confidence. That is the key here, they use things that we do not actually have a strong memory about but because of related associations we may THINK we have a strong memory about.
It is a well-established fact that eyewitness testimony is an absolutely lousy piece of evidence in a trial. Our memories are not good overall, and it is extremely common to make bad associations that can then be used against us after the fact to make us feel like everything is being changed. In reality, most of these things are simply items that we did not remember well enough originally to be some kind of expert about whether they have changed or not. The same way the cops might force feed an eyewitness a detail like “oh hey did he have brown hair”? Then all of a sudden the eyewitness is positive they saw brown hair. Since you are being presented this under the context of things “changing”, you become convinced that they are changing. People remember Nelson Mandela in 1990 but they probably have simply confused the memory of him being released from jail. How close could they really have paid attention? These are things that are very easy to use someone’s malleable memory of a long past event to show them that it is not the way they thought. But they give you the context of the Large Hadron Collider and changing realities and it can be very seductive. The only reason we become so confident that used to be a different way is because of the way it is being presented after the fact. Hey, you remember how the pairing is supposed to be of a lion and a lamb right? Well look at this, the book of Isaiah has been changed and now it says Wolf & Lamb. I may have never paid any special attention to the book of Isaiah before, but damned if that presentation is not seductive and makes me feel like OF COURSE it used to be lion and lamb the association is always been lion and lamb but they are just playing on weaknesses.
I have listened to people analyze the history of well funded organized attack on the bible. This has gone on for a long time >150 years. It has ramped up in recent decades to where it has become comical with bible of the month club and text that has become comical and absurd to the point that any kid that picks of one of these farcical bibles would throw it in the trash. People were messing with wording when you were learning the Lord’s Prayer , before then, and ever since then. Most people very seldom read a bible and possibly if they did read one occasionally it was one of a large variety all of which have constantly changing wording. In recent years this has become obvious and a lot of people have gone back to plain text only KJV 1611 versions to get away from this chaos. I did look at the claims and vids of Bill Bean and I saw nothing that I could not attribute to non supernatural causes above, and nothing to convince me of dimensional shifts. Just my opinion , sorry to be a pain, I speak my mind just like you.
Marsh, you say: ‘People were messing with wording when you were learning the Lord’s Prayer , before then, and ever since then.’
Can you be specific here? Who was messing with the wording and what was their motive? Do you know how publishing works? More importantly, do you know how the bible translations have been done over the years and who has done them? Do you know you can see the various translations along with the original Greek or Hebrew alongside it? And did you know that this doesn’t jibe with your comments on people messing with the wording? Have you really looked into this or is this pretty much coming off the top of your head?
I’d like to hear Kimberlie’s reaction to your comment on the wording changes, since she has many versions (and pub dates) of the bible at home.
I viewed a good video re Scoffield Bible by a baptist pastor but it has been deleted by utube.
Here is a link to the first descent google hit I came across for (Scoffield Rothschilds).
I do not know for sure but Kimberly may be scholar of Dispensationalsim pre trib prophecy doctrine , made popular largely through Scoffied. Also origin of our current Judeo churchianity or antichrist christianity. (who blesses the jews is blessed, who curses the jews is cursed) Kimberly very kind but in my opinion misinformed if this is the case because this is a very corrupt work.
Latter Day Saints, Scientology, Catholic Judaic/Occult Church, Ecumenicism, Judaic roots movements, I have looked into it. There are literally hundreds of bibles yet supposedly the bible is the unchanging word of god, god says in it he will preserve his word, any who add a word or take away a word the curses of the book be upon them , name removed from the book of life. So would a real Christian be behind this bullshit. Other than translations from original textus receptus and hebrew into the world’s languages (which was done a long time ago) should not have new editions every month.
Rothschild funded Scoffield through his personal acquaintance Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer, (who also drafted the legislation for the FED), the book consisted of mostly Talmudic interpretation and study notes outweighing and dwarfing original texts.
https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html
I’m missing your points. That article talks about the commentary in the Scofield bible, not the text. So how is it relevant?
Free Masons use (pervert and distort) the King James. Shriners use the Koran. When they get through with it and as the perverted texts disseminate how much stuck in the minds. How many Free Masons are there.
Global Hegemony in the millions i suppose…Filthy Lucre such a trap,. soon it will be illegal to discuss or criticize them as well and not just the parent company/tribe… the noose is getting tighter …truthfully i could give a crap whether we have been to the moon or not, or that Elon is who they say he is- it all stinks to high heavens … looking at the forest and ignoring the trees at this point….. all it takes is a few well placed matches…aloha
Did you just belittle the original texts, giving preference to English translations? After mixing golden plates, Xenu, eating the actual flesh of a 2000 year old Jewish man, unifying Christian religions, and Judaic roots of Christianity?
btw
“There are literally hundreds of bibles yet supposedly the bible is the unchanging word of god, god says in it he will preserve his word, any who add a word or take away a word the curses of the book be upon them , name removed from the book of life.”
Key word “supposedly.” If you started a religion this would have to be a tenet, threatening any who might disagree and splinter off into a separate group.
Textus Receptus was the first real translation…The curse is for the book of revelations since it is a prophetic book and not the whole (hebrew roman and greek creation) compiled set of books called the bible.
Why do people always think reality changed, instead of their memories, which are amorphous collections of information that are constantly changing and revising? Reality doesn’t work that way. Your perception of reality and memory itself is malleable, unlike the actual timeline that has already occurred, and is called the past. Only the future can change through agency in the current “now” timeline. Mandela effect? Uh, no. Current interpretations of religious works translated to English constantly changing for a variety of reasons? Uh, yes. Quotes in a particular actual printed book changing over time. Uh, no. I call bullshit.
Btw, I have no doubt you got an autograph spelled that way. Sometimes people change their names slightly for privacy or other reasons. Maybe he used a different spelling early, and switched to his real name later. Maybe the filmmakers and people doing the titles are morons. Maybe there are legal reasons. Jumping straight to the Mandela effect is quite a jump. All that you proved is that there is some confusion over how to spell his name. If the past can change, what is the point of proving anything is true?
Just to be clear what I meant:
agency – action or intervention, especially such as to produce a particular effect.
“canals carved by the agency of running water”
synonyms: action, activity, effect, influence, force, power, work
Not like corporations and government organizations and stuff. But you knew that.
Re our memories changing: this is a good example of not thinking How It Would Actually Work.
Why?
I’ve already written (several times) about why it can’t be a normal psy op and am not going to waste time repeating myself.
In regards to the Mandela effect, the Shamanic tradition has the idea and belief of parallel realities .
The idea is the universe is flickering or blinking on and off millions of times or even trillions of times a second and reality is a series of frozen images or pictures that are sequenced in your mind that gives you the experience of a seamless continuous reality like in the older motion movie picture frames (this idea was depicted in the blockbuster movie interstellar)and we are constantly choosing consciously or unconsciously through our thoughts , feelings and actions the next picture frame . There’s an infinite number of frames that you are choosing , each frame is independent to the previous one and so you are choosing one reality then the next , then the next , then the next etc etc etc . . If you take the time to just observe yourself you’ll realize there is no such thing as a future and consciousness is just a series of now moments with you not actually moving around in a world but the world is imagery inside a dark place called your head . It’s suggested to start monitoring your thoughts (and imagination) and pay attention to what’s going on in your world .
I have watched some of the vids looking for any specific instances that would make me think or give me pause. Did not come across any. Listened to a lot of dialogue telling me over and over what I was seeing without seeing what they were telling me I was seeing.
The f_ckery with the bible has had big money behind it for a hundred and fifty years and there are hundreds of corrupt versions created. (but not supernaturally) I believe this is just another pysop to make people believe that nothing is knowable and anything is possible.
Time better spent looking at the real history and ongoing corruptions of Bible, all the false prophets, false religions, pagan new age occult . Scoffield Bible would be a good one to start with. I have a 70 y/o KJV and a 35 y/o and a 1 y/o and they are all the same and I do not believe they have been supernaturally changed. If someone can point me to something that will not take hours of watching looking for something real I will look.
Read the Judaic (uncensored Talmud, Kabbalah, Zohar, etc) same twisted minds are writing/funding bible versions, study notes versions,. Serves as groundwork for this biblical mandela psyop. They are fucking with our minds since long before Orwell.
e.g. The wineskin one I believe is just study bible notes, clarifying wineskin (vs glass bottle) use but now being remembered as being original text. Study notes, in corrupt bibles often indistinguishable from original KJV text. Jewish occult cabbalism. Rabbinic Sanhedren self worship , setting themselves up as god, as the creators of this world. This Babylonian Talmudic Occult insanity has spread in our world like a cancer (free masonry). Not a good thing to focus on . It is malevolent bullshit, of the devil.
That it’s a psy op was my first assumption but it didn’t take long to realize how unlikely that scenario is. Miles Mathis did an essay saying it’s a psy op. Check it out: http://mileswmathis.com/mandela.pdf
So ‘Miles’ believes — as you will have to — that the CIA sneaks into your house when you’re not looking and replaces bibles and VHS tapes to fuck with you.
You wanna believe that, go for it.
You were right about Miles Mathis and the tells you have exposed previously. The article is initially sarcastic about CIA coming into your house , and then he goes on to say that they are in fact screwing with all kinds of people, all the time, and that I think is obvious. So I sort of agree with him, we remember things wrongly, and we are being screwed with. There is not a lot that I know for sure anymore.
Marsh, you pretty well described my exact feelings on Mandela effect. I am not yet sold, and believe it is just supported as a concept to be able to further erode the average person’s mindset on what is reality and what isn’t. And also agreed regarding Miles Mathis. The idea behind a limited hangout is that SOME of what they say is true. They throw out real things so that the misdirection is more convincing and insidious. Miles Mathis being a limited hangout does not automatically mean that everything he/they say or write is automatically false. In fact, it means much of what they say may be quite accurate and valuable.
One of the logical faults I find with Mandela effect thinking is when people are able to show both the before and after. They will have an example of the way it looked before and they will show how it looks after. Then there will be other things where ALL references to the item have been changed. This does not follow logically if there had been some kind of fundamental reality-altering event. If that were the case, we would not be seeing examples of the “old” way in the same reality as the ones with the “new” way. There is a perfectly logical explanation for 95 out of a 100 Mandela effect things I have seen. I will fully admit that the other 5 out of 100 examples puzzle me, but I just don’t think that there is much, if anything, there. Most of them have a perfectly logical explanation, and the others have a less unlikely explanation but not quite “Large Hadron Collider reality-altering” unlikely explanation.
The bible changes are interesting b/c so many have committed parts of it to memory (even me!). Does your 95% ‘explained’ include the bible? Did you read Kimberlie’s comment?
I did read Kimberlie’s comment. Setting aside the question of whether she is a real and genuine person with no motive to mislead me, I would say this is a person who is too confident that they remember exactly what Isaiah 11:6-7 has always said. Lions and lambs are mentioned all over the Bible. That verse even DOES mention a lion, just not paired exactly with the lamb. The lion is still part of the imagery of that passage. It is only because we are fed the detail of the pairing of wolf and lamb in the same breath/video as imagery of LION and lamb that we are so convinced we always remembered exactly what Isaiah 11:6-7 has said. You’re talking to 12 years of Catholic school here, and I could never state that I know for FACT that Isaiah 11:6-7 said lion instead of wolf at that particular place. This ME example is one of the Ed McMahon type where our preconceived associations are used against us. Since a lion and lamb archetype already exists in our minds, throwing out the wolf and lamb phrase can be very convincing and seductive as a “change”. Really, we never knew exactly what Isaiah 11:6-7 said, even if we would have expected the pairing to be lion and lamb because this is the archetype we are familiar with and associate in a religious way.
The Miles Mathis article on Mandela effect is actually especially interesting for the things it tries to subtly refute in the same breath as refuting Mandela effect. There are subtle mentions of Satanism and aliens in that article where right after making a very logical refutation of Mandela effect they also try to subtly throw cold water on Satanism and aliens. It is fascinating. From this point on I always read Miles Mathis articles from the perspective of a person who was intentionally trying to mislead and I look for the clues of what exactly they are trying to throw me off the scent of. In the Mandela effect article, it is definitely Satanism and aliens.
Thing is wouldn’t the correct answer about parallel realities be that we simply don’t know enough yet either way but he certainly goes to a lot of effort in disproving .
Absolutely right. MM’s take on the ME was irrelevant (for logical and logistical reasons) and he was doing his usual best to debunk Satanism, the occult, and aliens. A useless essay.
What bothers me in general re the denial that anything truly ‘inexplicable’ is happening is the lack of real thinking about How It Would Work, specifically (from the bible changes on down), and the ignoring of the sheer amount of ‘strangeness.’ Cherry picking in the worst sort of way. “Oh, i can explain THAT’ kind of reasoning, when it all has to be explained. That it can’t all be explained is exactly the point.
I asked and will ask again, Why the fuck does a 2012 video made by CERN refer to Mandela? Why all the occult references in the various CERN imagery? Combine that with the bible changes and we might start wondering about the things that are dreamt of in our philosophies. It’s not whether we are being fucked with, it’s who or what is behind it, and how it is being done.
I am right with you up until CERN or timeline weirdness. In a different place, I mentioned that I see too much “smoke” with Mandela effect. I agree that “where there is smoke, there is fire”, but Mandela effect is a case where I think there is excess smoke designed to prevent us from being able to see the fire. My best guess is that the source of it all, the death of Nelson Mandela, may actually have been some kind of weirdness with intelligence and TPTB. They blackwash it by associating it with these other memory phenomena that are easily explainable so that the average person will ALSO discount the idea that Nelson Mandela died and may have been replaced. It may also be more insidious, where the entire purpose is to make you doubt that ANYTHING from history is exactly the way you remember it. That may have been a coincidental benefit, or that might be the entire purpose.
All I can really say is that I believe most of it has a perfectly logical explanation, and that I fall short of CERN involvement. Even though I do acknowledge there must be some kind of weirdness afoot, otherwise it wouldn’t be a “thing” at all.
Well that would be the whole point of it. That you would start to feel hopeless at some point. I say don’t give into that. The last thing we should give them is a hopeless society.
In fact they hate hope so much that it is probably our best defense against anything that they throw at us.
What do you mean ‘he was being sarcastic’? Do you realize that this does not fit with the rest of that sentence? You ‘sort of agree’ with what, exactly?
maybe he was serious , I don’t know , I can’t make sense out of anything anymore. Kimberly is obviously convinced her bibles have changed and she obviously reads them. All I really know is that I know nothing.
Baffles me how any thinking human being can put so much stock in a book which was cobbled together from bits and parts of earlier religions for the express purposes of destroying goddess worship, ie: female deities, the smooth and curvaceous feminine form (the maker of life is obviously the first object of worship among our earliest ancestors) and putting the ugly male pecker and ballsack in absolute authority as the revered and feared warrior god.
And then further bastardized at the council of nicea. Cobbling books together and omitting other books. Make the females into whores or at least second class and fully subservient to the warmonger males.
Hi Fast Freddy
Totally agree!
For those who try to understand ‘ME’ here’s a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbTiOVyK6O0
This might interest you Allan.
Interesting that Tsarion sees the ME effect but he puts me sleep….
“Jewish occult cabbalism. Rabbinic Sanhedren self worship , setting themselves up as god, as the creators of this world. This Babylonian Talmudic Occult insanity has spread in our world like a cancer (free masonry). Not a good thing to focus on . It is malevolent bullshit, of the devil.”
Cancer Indeed- however i would peer a little deeper into history and discover who the enlilites were- Enki Enlil Inanna and everything that has descended from the ancient astronauts ….. the madness is inherited, mankind is infected… thank God for the messiah that was and will return putting these devils and their Babylon system to rest.
Allan~ Great to have you writing out here again! I missed you! You brought this up a month ago regarding the Mandela Effect….. I looked at it – then thought nothing was serious here – maybe a slip-up of sorts. You bringing it up again, I decided to look further into it.
WHOA!
Something is going on and has been for years now – subtle at first , now things are speeding up. Interesting about CERN and DWAVE being the (possible) portal of this change. Isaiah 11:6-7 KJV was always ….’the lion shall lay with the lamb’……… now it says …. ‘with the wolf’….! Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. Seeing these Bible verses – CHANGED – difficult to grasp, however, we are living in the End Times! I was completely unaware of Bill Bean who has has much to say, much to point out concerning the Biblical changes! Thank you! Thank you – this was completely unexpected.
I have umpteen Bibles – different versions ……. and ALL of them are CHANGED!
I pray daily for you, Allan. I pray the Holy Spirit of God to open your eyes and ears – that you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and you come under the Blood of the Lamb. I ask the Holy Spirit to give you wisdom, understanding, discernment………..
In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.
With much respect for you and kind regards to you,
~Kimberlie
Kimberlie: You really are a kind and sweet person. I do need help, and maybe prayer will work; so I appreciate your time and attention and good will. I’m not sure Christianity is the way for me though. I don’t believe in genocide and slavery and stoning whores to death and so forth, but more on that when I finish my Letter to Sam Harris. (Which will involve Hitchens also. Both are ‘trusted’ now by secular types for their hundreds (or is it thousands?) of YT vids and podcasts exposing religion for the (logical) nonsense that it is. This is shooting fish in a barrel, of course, but what in subtext they are usually saying, given that Islam is their main target, is that the war on terror is really a war with Islam (‘the clash of civilizations the PTB want) and — this is important – the 9/11 story we were fed is TRUE.
But I’m glad you are on board with the Mandela Effect being somehow ‘real’ and inexplicable. I don’t mind that you probably believe that Satan himself is changing the Bible verses. In some sense you may be right about this.
Just FYI, I haven’t prayed since I was about 10 years old, but it was the Lord’s Prayer and it was ‘trespasses’ not ‘debts.’ What is even stranger (and more robust evidence that all is not well) is how ‘Who are in heaven’ is now ‘Which art in heaven’ and ‘on earth’ is now ‘in earth.’ See. there may be some double-talk a ‘ME denier’ can use to explain the ‘debts’ change (check out Wikipedia for an example), but all us (former or current) Christians know God is a Who not a Which, and that we live on the earth, not in it. Try to find someone (fairly old) who remembers ‘which’ and ‘in’ — you won’t find any, IMO. (Right? Comments welcome on this.)
I’ve looked at many of the Bible changes and it’s obvious that they are not random (like many of the changes in pop culture, ‘Sex AND the City and so forth). We now have Jesus a bit gay (in subtext) and men breast feeding infants and guys who ‘pisseth’ against walls. There is a wry and nasty sense of humor behind some of the changes, is what I’m saying. That some changes are not random is possibly significant.
I would ask you to commit important verses to memory and maybe write down those you do this with, although you may find your hand-written stuff changed as well somewhere down the line. The way these changes (in the Bible and elsewhere) are going, you cannot really prove them. We are being messed with in a way that cannot be explained by the laws of physics as they are currently known.
If anyone knows a blind person who uses Braille I’d like to know if the changes are in their Braille versions as well. ‘They’ might have slipped up on this.
Allan~
Thank you for your consideration and reply to my comment. Thank you for your concern that I hadn’t replied to your response to my comment on your Blog regarding the Mandela Effect. I was thinking how I was going to respond to your response and didn’t want to scoot something in just to get in a reply….. you’ve opened my eyes to so many important issues, real issues that NEED much thought and consideration, that I didn’t want to reply right away simply to reply. Reading the many blabbing responses from the ‘id-dee-its’ in the Blog, boy, it is disheartening! This is Biblical…… what the Lord God is allowing His Children to see and hear is ONLY for those with eyes to see and ears to hear…..
You may be in denial, Allan, you do have a choice though. In the Old Testament, Amos 8:11-12, states:
11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
Checking ALL of my many Bibles and seeing every single one of them CHANGED, listening to BeanBibleChanges.com videos, digging further into neural lace, D-Wave Computers and CERN……. UGH!, this is REAL – as real as anything I KNOW to be true (in a very creepy sort of way)! This may very well be Satan’s readying the world for his introduction of the Antichrist. The PTB are EVIL. There is NO GOOD in them. This is Spiritual Warfare of Good and Evil. Life and death. We must be ready. Allan, I don’t want you left behind because it WILL be a terrible, terrifying eternal separation from God with NO CHANCE OF REDEMPTION.
Satan is BUSY and working much faster now that homosexuality and transgender/no gender is accepted – legally! That has opened the doors and floodgates for every other kind of perversion to rear its ugly head and be accepted. God made man and God made woman. Period. Millions of unborn babies are murdered…. Pharmaceutical companies are exceedingly taking possession of millions/billions of lives! Satan is having a field day. Satan is about death and destruction, nothing more.
I urge you to find and read a KJV – King James Version Bible. Begin with the New Testament – the Book of John. You already KNOW there has been/is a great deception going on with the PTB. Religion is a great deception! Me believing in Christ Jesus and God and the Holy Spirit is not a religion. It is an inner peace. I do not believe in Christianity as a religion – I believe in Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. John 3:16 states, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
If you can believe in the evil that pervades this world, then you can believe in the love of God.
I’m not worried; I have read the Good Book. I know the beginning to the end. I have the peace of God that surpasses ALL understanding. We are in the End Times.
I pray the Holy Spirit of God to open your eyes and ears to the Truth.
Very kind regards to you,
~Kimberlìe
PS: yes, let’s see if anyone here knows someone who uses Braille and check the Braille version of the Bible!
Not to go off on a whole other tangent but, Kimberlie, I have two questions. One, it’s the Bible, isn’t it — the story, it’s words — that is the source of your deep beliefs?
And two, imagine a tribe of hunter-gatherers in the Amazon who have never heard of Jesus, let alone the scriptures you quote. What will become of them when the End Times come?
Hi Allan~
Thank you for your interest.
Yes, it is the Source – God – His Words IN the Bible… it is the Bible because the Bible was written through the divine inspiration of God and the Holy Spirit of God moves through the Bible and tells us what God wants for us and how we can obtain salvation. Jesus is the Word of God. The Bible tells us of the choice we NEED to make. For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. That choice for me was to accept the Word of God: Jesus Christ as my personal Savior Who is the ONLY Source of Truth.
Here’s a quick 7 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbKoCpnkLQ
Moving along, in answer to your 2nd question…
We ARE in the End Times. ALL the earth has been witnessed to – there is no place that has not been reached (due to the WorldWideWeb, radio broadcast and missionaries going into the far reaches of the earth). ALL people have a choice. That tribe of hunter-gatherers in the Amazon have also been given the choice to receive the truth or believe the lie.
*2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this cause God shall send them strong delusion. Because they do not receive the truth. That they should believe a lie.
He who refuses to receive the truth will at last believe lies. It is the law of human nature. God sends the delusion by natural laws.
Jesus IS coming!
Kind regards,
~Kimberlie
In other words, a tribe in the Amazon that does not accept Jesus as their personal savior will all burn in hell, no matter their age or upbringing. And please don’t tell me that they have a choice because of the Internet. Are you really listening to yourself?
The sort of thing I’m doing right now is shooting fish in a barrel. Intelligent people see the obvious and, frankly, abhorrent implications of your hell and damnation screed and – especially re Islam, which is no different – come to trust the words of Harris and his ilk and the subtext thereof, i.e., that the war on terror is real and Islamic nut cases flew airplanes into the WTC. WE ARE ARE WAR WITH ISLAM! Do you see how easy you are making it for them to do this?
Regarding your first point: You now understand that the Bible’s words have been changed, yet you trust its provenance? How could you possibly know what is ‘God’s word and what is some evil demon’s, given what you have recently learned? Not to mention that human beings wrote those words to begin with, and we have no way of knowing their real agenda in doing so. Do we? Listen to Sam Harris on religion: as with all LH dangles he has to give you truth to suck you in. Fish in a barrel.
Hi Allan~
Satan/Hell/evil is real. God/Heaven/good is real.
We are living in the times that the people want the lies more than the truth – they believe the lies as truth. God states in His Word that because the people do not want the truth He will give them over to the lies. Matters not who these people are – how old, etc. Those in the Amazon have been reached – one way or another….. the WWW? Probably not. More likely radio or missionaries.
Islam is a created cult of the PTB through Satan. I do not believe a word the media has to say about it – good or bad. I believe we had/have a very sound fundamental understanding of God’s Word before Satan and his minions got into it. I do not believe God’s Word has been changed so drastically as of anytime in the recent present/past that His Children would be confused by Satan’s/TPTB recent distortions of it. You say the Bible was written by men. Yes, by men who were divinely inspired of God. Were they good or evil men? No need to answer. Allan, don’t lose out and be given over to the delusions (lies). Be not deceived. God is not mocked.
I will continue to pray for you – without ceasing – that in the name of Jesus the Holy Spirit of God open your eyes and ears that you may see and hear the Truth and that you may know what you don’t know that you need to know and that you accept Jesus as your Savior. Amen.
Until you mentioned Sam Harris, I never heard of him. I have not listened to him…… yet. I don’t read eBooks – I’d much prefer the hard copy. Please give me a head’s up on which video would you like me to view.
Respectfully and with very kind regards,
~Kimberlie
good people who have not been given the word of god , have not had the choice, do not have the capacity to understand, infants, disabled, Amazon Tribes, will have faith in god in their heart , and that is all they need. When you have the word, hear the word, understand the choice between good and evil , I suspect we are held responsible to choose correctly , choose the truth condemn the lies. We are not to judge , to decide as you say who is saved, no one knows for sure if they are saved , it is on faith, all wait. Because someone is Christian you demand of them who is saved. Faith in what is unseen because why? Because something in the words made you believe. Call it foolish. Maybe it is. The story is what it is . It cannot be changed. It is either the truth or it is a lie. People who think they can change it , and it still means something are even more foolish. How foolish is your multiple dimensional world. Maybe we can all just sit down and navel gaze our way into a new dimension that is not all fu_cked up. We won’t have to search for truth or liars because we all have our own little realities where our lies become truth.
So many with a visceral hatred of Christians, (even on this blog) twisting and condemning for a word. I admit that many (so-called) Christians have acted unjustly, but they never did so in conformity with the principles and doctrines of Christianity. Christianity does not justify evil, but Rabbinical Judaism does, and so do all of the false prophet, false religions, new age modern/ancient pagan spin offs clones and inventions masquerading as truth.
Efforts to bring about a one world religion, part of the world being built , Everybody fits nicely, except Christians (even Islam will fit nicely, once the M.E. is fully subjugated).
A full page advertisement in the New York Times April 7, 2006 sponsored by Chabad -Lubavitcher advances the notion that the Grand Rabbi Manachem Mendel Schneerson was the Moshiach(Messiah). quote “Not Just for Jews: The Rebbe’s message extends to all mankind…through adherence to the core principles of the Seven Hoahide Laws…These Laws include …establishment of a system of laws and justice…”
NOAHIDE LAW..March 26, 1991; George W. Bush and congress signed into law H.J.Res.104 — 102nd Congress (1991-1992). Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws; Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos; In tribute to the great spiritual leader, `the rebbe’, Schneerson this, his birthday, will be seen as the year in which we return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; reflected in an international scroll signed by the President of the United States
https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-joint-resolution/104/text/enr
Maimonides rules that all gentiles who are not followers of the Noachide Law are liable to death.
One death penalty offense under the Noahide rabbinic legal system is idolatry.
Maimonides ruled that Christians are idolaters.
Maimonides wished the death of all faithful Christians yet he is presented to the world as a catalyst for peace and love.
Since Maimonides has ruled that Christians are idolaters, it is not difficult to see that the 102nd U.S. Congress, and the numerous Judeo churchianity – churchmen who promote submission to the Noachide Laws, wittingly or unwittingly, have laid the groundwork for the execution, at some future date, of authentic Christians individually by trial before a rabbinic judge, or en masse.
Is Islam falsely under attack? Yes. Would they love a Christian Muslim war? Of course. Is it the fault of turn the other cheek Christians? No. Who is an existential/mortal threat to Christians? Who is the Synagogue of Satan? Who is Rabbinic Judaism?
No anti-semitism , I judge no man, just the facts.
“And two, imagine a tribe of hunter-gatherers in the Amazon who have never heard of Jesus, let alone the scriptures you quote. What will become of them when the End Times come?”
They Never Heard the Testimony? they get to decide on judgement day,
God is a just God! however, those knowing much and yet they still decide to turn away, their guilt will be much, because, to whom that much hath been given much will be required- those Pharisees who know everything there is to know, and still turn away from the messiah, they have declared themselves to know better than God Himself… they will be in quite the pickle.
God is Love and its Never to late to accept Christ Alan Much love and aloha to you.
I believe Sam Harris doesn’t consciously lie. someone saying something false doesn’t mean they don’t believe what they’re saying….which is the first principle of lying.
I could not agree with you more. This is in fact the reason the Letter is taking so long to do. I am certain Harris is a ‘formal’ mole, not a useful idiot and to expose his monumental hypocrisy I do have to prove he is outright lying.
Found this vid , might be of interest of Hitchens and Harris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlCjy52h0hc&t=931s “Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris on is there an afterlife full debate “, only watched 15m so far and will watch the rest over the weekend (1.37 long) . I already find it bizarre that Hitchens who is regarded as an intellectual rejects any notion of any kind of divine inquiry in fact he is openly mocking the idea and any intellectual philosopher worth his salt ( unless they’re bull shitters) would have studied and understood deeply Willliam Blakes ideas on the nature of reality . From Wikipedia on the now celebrated William Blake ” While he lived in London his entire life, except for three years spent in Felpham,[5] he produced a diverse and symbolically rich œuvre, which embraced the imagination as “the body of God”[6] or “human existence itself”.[7]
Although Blake was considered mad by contemporaries for his idiosyncratic views, he is held in high regard by later critics for his expressiveness and creativity, and for the philosophical and mystical undercurrents within his work ” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blake) . The guardian puts Hitchens and Blake together “Where William Blake breathed his last enraptured and transported by visions of Jerusalem, Hitchens, that other wayward nonconformist, to have found comparable solace in the fine precision of single malt reason”
(aphttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/28/christopher-hitchens-and-yet-review-essayspears ) .
Watched 2 vids now ( well one and a half) .
First one linked above “Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris on is there an afterlife full debate” . In this one Hitchens is mocking the idea of god creator and is very entertaining actually like an intellectual stand up comedian. Disappointing if you wanted to see a philosophical discussion though.
Harris starts off with the idea that existence is a simulation like the Sims game and continues later with “there’s no empirical evidence of God “.
Second vid – “Jordan Peterson debates Sam Harris: London [Highlights] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w641Bb83XrQ&pbjreload=10) . In this one we see Peterson taking the conversation into deeper philosophical and psychological levels with some excellent reasoning and Harris constantly dragging the argument back to surface level with the likes of “god didn’t write the bible” and other strawmen . You can see Peterson getting frustrated and shaking his head and I turned off half way through as Harris was becoming way to tedious and frustrating to watch in the end.
Yeah, I’ve seen those videos and have to tell you that I pretty much agree with Hitchens/Harris on these topics, which is why I would bother to expose them for the state operatives they so obviously are. Listen to Harris on that Joe Rogan podcast I linked to. That one is key. That he could go on and on about science then make those claims about ‘conspiracy theories’ and so forth… and then write a book titled ‘Lying’…. no, I can’t let that stand.
Ordo Ab Chao… maximum chaos for controlled demolition of the Human race. owning both sides of the coin, they cannot lose until everything is taken away from them in the end, death the finality, the lies stop then, unless so deluded they choose outer darkness for themselves. spitting in the face of love… can the ego really be that strong? Aloha
Bill Bean needs to look into Mauro Biglino if he wants to see serious alterations made to the bible.
Never heard of Zublick but all that is hope porn for Q readers. It would be an unprecedented humdinger if true.I believe the crimes are true.
And that is what I did. So help me…whatever…
Do you have a link to the best Mauro Biglino material or should I do my own searches?
This Columbo vs Columbu thing could just be part translation and part stage name. Perhaps the real spelling is Columbu, but early in his career someone misheard Columbo and he just went along with it and didn’t correct them. Similar to Ulysses S. Grant and the “S” not standing for anything. These things happen. Now later in life he prefers the real spelling, but back in the day he went along with Columbo. Just a thought.
Very interested in the upcoming Open Letter.
Eric, this ME is like 9/11 or the Apollo hoax. It’s a matter of SO MUCH STUFF! Yes, you could explain Franco or this one or that one but there are so many that I personally remember. Christ, Mister Rogers singing ‘this neighborhood’? Sorry. Wasn’t that way. PERIOD.
By the way, that a physicist at CERN is grinning over a sign that says MANDELA has to be explained. (The Bond 1 may refer to the first ever James Bond movie, which starred Barry Nelson. Nelson Mandela…)
If I worked at CERN, whether I believed in Mandela effect or not, I would probably get a kick out of it and I might joke around like that.
I absolutely understand the “volume” argument with 9/11 because each inconsistency is totally unique and builds up to the point you would have to swallow a whole lot to believe it is true. Kind of like the Magic Bullet with JFK. However I see Mandela effect’s volume slightly differently. If we view the Mandela effect as more of a memory based phenomenon where poorly formed memories can be manipulated by presenting them with slightly altered relationships. Kind of like Ed McMahon never having worked for Publishers Clearinghouse, but he DID work for a different company that awarded big prize checks. We think we are certain that it was Publishers Clearinghouse, but why would we have been so certain about a detail like that? Then, if somebody presents it to you and tells you that the timeline has changed and he never worked for Publishers Clearinghouse, they are taking advantage of the fact that you DO have an association of him awarding prize checks. In retrospect, we THINK we were certain it was Publishers Clearinghouse, but again why would we have remembered that particular detail so closely? It is only because someone has presented the situation in a context of changing timelines and fed you the Publishers Clearinghouse detail. If somebody had directly asked you which prize company Ed McMahon worked for, there is no way anyone would have the same level of certainty for Publishers Clearinghouse. It is only after the Mandela effect video feeding you the detail of Publishers Clearinghouse that the people become certain they remember Publishers Clearinghouse. Like the eyewitness being fed a detail then the detail feeling like it was always part of the memory. Human memory is, generally speaking, lousy.
Along these lines, the vast majority of ME are all evidence of the same memory phenomenon. Not distinct weirdness adding up to an unbelievable whole, like 9/11.
Ordo Ab Chao- The whole reason is to get humanity so confused, bewildered, and lost that mankind questions their own sanity, reality and then are set up to believe the ultimate lie that We Are God.
And the Mister Rogers thing, I explain the same way I explain Berenstain Bears. Like you said yourself, the quote feels strange if you say “beautiful day in THIS neighborhood”. So strange that all the children watching probably attributed it to memory the much simpler form of “beautiful day in THE neighborhood”, since this is how children speak and think. Then, as children, we sing it to ourselves with the wrong word, and the wrong way gets remembered as the right way. The wrong way even becomes a famous slogan for the show.
I feel that most ME falls under one of these two categories, either something that is misleading due to a false association like the Ed McMahon one…or something that most people submitted to memory in a way that actually differed from reality, like the Mister Rogers one.
Your Franco Columbo one probably falls under the 5% that are harder to explain, although I threw out the idea that early in his career the alliterative Franco Columbo was used because he was told it was catchier, or it was a simple mistake that he did not correct until later in life. We’d have to ask him. Then there may be some where things have genuinely been changed, perhaps by TPTB. I am not dismissing the phenomenon outright, certainly not as an interesting function of memory, but also not for some of the more complicated ones where there might actually be something more sinister involved. Where I fall short is the Large Hadron Collider or different timelines.
Also Allan, I want to be clear that I don’t mean any disrespect to you by speaking my mind about my hesitancy on Mandela effect being related to altering timelines. I do think the vast majority are simply related to an interesting phenomena of memory, but I am not the kind of person who would just dismiss it outright. Like I said, I fall short of CERN involvement, but if a large group of people really think Nelson Mandela died in 1990, perhaps that really happened and they are not just confusing images of his release from prison. TPTB could have simply erased the real news of his death (which could have leaked), and then immediately replaced Mandela himself with a double as “released from prison”. How many times have we seen doubles of important people with intelligence backing? I find that explanation far more probable and convincing than the CERN ones. Like I said, I absolutely do not dismiss the phenomena outright and I do not mean any disrespect to you for speaking my mind. Too many of the ones I see are just far too easily explainable along the lines I have already outlined, all as a function of the same few interesting functions of human memory. That does not mean that all of them are explainable along these lines. Usually where there is smoke there is fire, but Mandela effect is one where I see too much smoke. I do believe there is fire, just not the level of fire that involves CERN or timelines.
You know what ‘ad hoc’ means, right, Eric? When you have to come up with a huge number of ad hoc ‘explanations’ for something, at a certain point you should back up and consider the possibility that something unknown to your philosophy is at work. Again: it’s the sheer number of examples that lead to this being…. highly strange in cause.
I think “U” may be onto something. ..
Yeah, it was that I met the guy when his name ended with an ‘o’ that did it. He signed it with an ‘o.’ I wish I still had the magazine cover, although the point of the ME is that his signature might have changed as well. It’s this sort of thing that gets my attention.
The ME is like the ‘moon numbers’ in that there is no way to explain it all via coincidence (chance) or the ‘laws of nature (necessity). Once chance and necessity are ruled out, we are dealing with…. something else.