It really does just keep getting worse.
In a comment yesterday I told you that I’d be writing about my experience with a group of Amish folks who pulled up in a bus for a day at the beach just yards from my sandy niche here on the Gulf Coast. Well, okay, here we go.
The bus pulled up as I was looking into the possible ‘supernatural’ (inexplicable via the current, understood ‘laws of nature’) injection of emoticons in the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible. I’d found a pretty good video, although it was ‘faith based’ as opposed to hard on evidence, which is what we’re interested in here. Still, I recommend it, even for those who continue with ad hoc explanations for the various robust examples of the phenomenon. If you go about half an hour into the video you’ll find the 40 examples given of ‘smiley face’ emoticons in the current KJV.
A couple things before I get to the Amish part of this post. The various translations of the Bible were generally if not wholly done by masters at the craft/art of translation to English from archaic languages. Look into it (I did). These were men (and a woman or two) who not only knew the languages well but were dedicated to a word-accurate translation. This is important, in the present example (emoticons in the KJV) in that usage of a colon immediately followed by a right paren – in other words, a smiley face – has no use or history of use in the English language. Maybe take the time to look at the examples given in the video and please explain how experts in language could insert those goddamn things into a work of this importance (if only historical).
(To those of you who disclaim the use of ad hockery in your explanations of the various MEs: I’m interested in how you explain this one, i.e., ‘Emoticons are a little known olde English tradition’ or some such.)
Anyway, so I’m in my rig squinting at emoticons in my hard copy Bible and look out the front windshield to see about a score and a half of genuine Bible-thumpers piling out of a huge bus right there in front of me, as if their appearance was either divinely ordained (for my benefit), or one helluva coincidence. (That the folks were Amish was obvious from their dress.)
In mere minutes I zeroed in on the male with the longest, greyest beard, figuring that, Number One, he’d be the most learned in the intricacies of the Good Book, and, Number Two, he was old enough so that the changes were most likely to have occurred after he’d learned his scriptures.
After a short intro (‘I’m over there in the RV,’ etc.) I asked him if he was familiar with the Bible passage that says ‘The lion shall lie down with the lamb’; I even mentioned the book of Isaiah and that the verse refers to how things’ll go when Jesus returns to straighten the world out.
‘Yes,’ the man, whose name was David, replied. He was indeed familiar with the passage.
‘King James Version, right?’ I was setting David up for some boom-lowering.
‘Yes, the King James Version. Isaiah 11;6,’ he said, referring to Chapter 11, Verse 6.
‘Sorry, David, but you’re wrong. In fact, no where in the Bible is it written that ‘The lion shall lie down with the lamb.’ I was respectful in tone but adamant. David stared at me, smiling, and I won’t say condescendingly. He is not that sort of man, being a devote Amish. ‘You recall that passage, though, don’t you?’ I added to break the silence.
Yesterday, the Amish arrive.
‘Yes, of course I do,’ David said, still smiling pleasantly.
‘Do you have a Bible handy?’ I wanted to know. ‘If not, I have one in my RV.’ I gestured to my rig, 10 yards away.
There was a guy standing a yard or two nearby and here he injected himself into the conversation. He would tell me his name, but in my (coming) aggravation toward him – if not outright loathing – I have forgotten it. At this point I merely noticed that he was not dressed as an Amish, although he was definitely with the group. (I very much regret that I didn’t get the details of what he was doing on the bus.) We’ll refer to him as The Hypocrite. (Right: Why not?)
The Hypocrite had a Blackberry device in hand and sort of waved it. ‘Of course it’s in the Bible,’ he said, referring to the lion/lamb passage, and smiling from behind his hip shades. He started pecking at his keyboard. I turned back to David. ‘David,’ I said, ‘I believe there have been changes made to the Bible, supernatural changes. You won’t find the lion and lamb laying together any more.’
The Hypocrite was squinting now, pecking his Blackberry faster. To both of them I then opined that there is Evil afoot, and that the End Times may be very near. I didn’t necessarily believe this, but I thought it a good ‘translation’ to the biblical way of thinking.
They did this group shot just before leaving.
I’ll not stretch this out further than necessary, for I’m already getting disheartened in the writing…
At that moment I wasn’t much interested in The Hypocrite’s rising panic as he worked feverishly on his blackberry, looking for the lion and lamb quote. He may have been ‘on the bus,’ but he wasn’t Amish. I had a grey-bearder in suspenders right in front of me and wanted to stay with him on this subject. ‘There are other changes, David,’ I said, ‘and I’d like to see what you think of them. Can we refer to your Bible?’ I assumed he had one handy.
‘It’s not handy,’ David said. I briefly wondered if David was actually lying to me, but what I said was this: ‘I have one. Shall I go get it?’
David was still smiling amicably. But he said, ‘No, I’d rather you didn’t.’
I turned to the Hypocrite and asked if he had a hard copy of the bible with him. No, he didn’t. ‘This is just as good,’ he said, referring to his Blackberry.
‘Really?’ I said. ‘If we’re going to look for changes, supernatural changes, in the Bible, wouldn’t you prefer a hard copy?
‘Doesn’t matter.’ I was thinking that any devout religious type who figures that — in the matter of supernatural changes — the Net is as reliable as a hard copy is either pretty dumb or not as devout as he thinks he is. Wait. Both, actually. Dumb and not devout. The Hypocrite had ceased his pecking and was now staring mutely at the ‘berry’s screen. I knew precisely what he was looking at.
‘It’s a wolf now, isn’t it? Isaiah 11;6?’ This was me speaking. ‘The wolf is lying with the lamb.’
The Hypocrite in blue. When he saw me raise my camera he turned his head away. Hang in and you’ll get the drift.
‘The Bible hasn’t changed.’ This was the best he could do, although, as I would soon find out, the wheels were turning. Turning in my direction.
I looked at David and asked him if he uses the Lord’s Prayer and he assured me that he did. I asked him to just start it. ‘Bear with me,’ I said. ‘Just the first four or five words.’
‘Our Father who art in Heaven…’
I interrupted. ‘That’s incorrect. It’s ‘Which art in Heaven.’ (That the change to ‘which’ could be a sly homonym with ‘witch’ just this moment occurs to me… more on this later.)
There was a young guy behind The Hypocrite, seated in a chair leaning against the bus. Amish garbed, a handsome tow-headed kid in his late teens, smiling amicably at me, listening. I inquired how he begins the Lord’s Prayer. He leaned back and stared straight up. Didn’t answer. Meanwhile, The Hypocrite was back on his blackberry. Unfazed, I asked the kid if he used the phrase ‘Forgive us our trespasses’ in the prayer. No answer. Stared straight up. His body language somehow told me that he was trying his best to be polite even as he ignored my question.
The Hypocrite piped up, answering my question: ‘Yes, ‘As we forgive those who trespass against us.’ The way he said it, I got the impression that he was somehow forgiving me for some such trespass. In retrospect, he may have been right. In a way I was trespassing, I suppose.
Find it in the Bible, I suggested.
As The Hypocrite pecked, I turned back to David. I tried to include his wife, who was sitting beside him in a full-length black dress and white head covering, in the following, . ‘Does the Bible refer to men breast-feeding babies?’
David didn’t respond but excused himself politely. He and his wife rose and crossed to the beach, just a few feet away. With the Amish kid still staring… well, heavenward… and seemingly out of the conversation, it was just me and The Hypocrite. And it was all down hill from there.
He couldn’t find the Lord’s Prayer (as he says it) in his Blackberry Bible. But still, ‘The Bible hasn’t changed.’
I’ll only cover as much of the rest of this as is necessary to impart a sense of why yesterday was such a bad day for me. By a ‘bad day’ I mean in the sense of too much stuff. Too much evidence that human beings are not only capable of monumental (unspeakable) hypocrisy, but that such a condition is very close to being the default setting.
The Hypocrite not only did not believe that changes have occurred in the Bible, but he would not look at evidence unless I tricked him into doing so, or in one case stuck it right in his stupid face. In the meantime, he insisted that the End Times were here. (In my attempt at brevity you may miss the point that I really tried to show him passages that would… or might… back up my assertion that all was not well with the Good Book.)
Just took this. A minute ago.
When I would ask The Hypocrite a question, and for quite a while they were very reasonable and respectful, he would always respond by inquiring something about my private life. It only came up later where he was going with this, but at one point he asked if I was married. No. Ever been? No. Have I had sex with a woman? Yes. How many? About a hundred and twenty. (I explained that I knew the number because I’d written a memoir that required me to self-reflect on the subject.)
I did ask him how many women he’d had sex with. (Yes, I’m hurrying through this, leaving out a bunch.) None, he said. ‘I’m virgin.’ (Not ‘a’ virgin.) When I asked his age he said he was 29. (For some of you this may explain everything about him: severe back-up-age and so forth. I won’t argue the issue.)
At some point – and I have to repeat that he refused to answer any of my queries, always responding to a question with a question about my sinful past – I repeated the query about the Bible referring to men breast-feeding babies.
‘Of course not.’ Finally an answer. By then I had grabbed my bible – I’ve already told you guys the story about how I came across it on the road – and opened it to Numbers 11:12 (which I’d marked). ‘Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land….’
Then, before he could ask me anything, I went to Isaiah 49:23 and read aloud, ‘And kings shall be thy nursing fathers and queens they nursing mothers…’
This is from last year, a newspaper pic. Handsome folks.
‘I guess you didn’t remember those passages when you denied the reference.’ He answered with a query about my sex life, segueing into an explanation of how I carry the sins and iniquities of each woman I’ve had sex with outside of marriage.
‘Wow, I guess I’m pretty loaded down then,’ I replied, words to that effect. I added this question: ‘According to the Bible, if any of those women I had sex with get married, what should happen is that the new husband drags her to her father’s door, where she should be stoned to death by anyone passing by. I mean, since she’s not a virgin.’ (Yes, this is in the Old Testament.)
The Hypocrite was intimately (so to speak) familiar with this beaut of a piece of wisdom. ‘Yes, she should be stoned to death, true.’
‘You approve of that?’
Here The Hypocrite truly was in his element, since the answer had to do with me, and my promiscuities. Or so it seemed. See, God insists that the non-virgin be stoned to death to… I’ll try to get this right… end the transmogrification of the evils and iniquities that had been passed down through the non-virgin’s family for 10 generations (or less, I think, but it might have been more). When you have sex with a woman, The Hypocrite told me… you take on all the… whatevers that the non-virgin’s ancestors have perpetrated and so the killing of the non-virgin is actually an act of mercy, in the long run.
Trust me that if I erred in the above recollection it was on the side of giving this raving lunatic a break, in terms of logic and mercy and all around human kindness. Looking into his eyes I could easily picture him pitching in in the death-stoning of another human being.
One subject of our discourse I will not much delve into was that of slavery. When I brought up the subject, The Hypocrite smugly informed me that according to scripture, according to his merciful God, slavery only ‘lasted’ seven years, as if he’d made a profound point regarding… presumably… something…
I know. I didn’t get around to asking about the high end bus.
This sort of ‘communication’ went on for waaay longer than it should have, and I just don’t have it in me to subject you to much more of it, and anyway, The Hypocrite and his beliefs are not the point here, since I was interested in the Amish view, and, as stated, he was not formally one of them. So I have to segue back to grey-bearded David; I hadn’t given up on him.
Aside from my parting suggestion to The Hypocrite that he get the fuck out of my face and away from my door (he had approached my rig, my home, and said through my screen door that he had ‘one more question’), the only other colloquy worth relating was my on-the-beach offer to lend him my laptop (which I had in hand) so he could watch a video made by a ‘real’ Christian and which might enlighten him as to possible Bible changes better than I could. To which, as usual, he responded with his own query, to wit: ‘How much of the occult have you indulged in?’ Not Are you into the occult? That was a given. He wanted to know how much.
I immediately knew where this one came from: It was his rationalization for not paying attention to any evidence that Satan might be currently at work with his Good Book. See, in response to his assertion that we are indeed in End Times, I’d pointed out that changes in the Bible would certainly re-enforce this observation. Wouldn’t it? So shouldn’t he look into it? Point being: I was now either the hand of Satan or even the Big Guy himself. Therefore paying attention to me or, indeed, to any evidence I might come up with, would be… I dunno… sacrilegious?
Or the suspenders…
But his occult accusation pissed me off, so I asked if he was aware of Scriptural approval of homosexuality. Right. I was seeking to… get his goat (a Biblical reference, no?) Before he could finish his response, which was still another question about my past, I stuck my hard copy Bible right in his face, already open to St Luke, with 17:34 underscored in red. (The context is that when the End Times come and Jesus plucks the believers off the face of the earth for the ride to heaven, certain folks will get to go, others will not.)
..in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, the other left [behind to rot on earth]’
and the very next verse, #35 reads:
‘Two woman shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, the other left.’
‘What are two men doing in one bed?!’ I snarled in The Hypocrite’s face. The fucker was, for once, speechless, meaning question-less. ‘Even taken separately but certainly taken together the reference is to two fags and two lesbos, and means they can go to heaven with Jesus!’ (Later The Hypocrite would approach my screen door as described. Aside from that, I had nothing more to say to him.)
I walked directly over to David, who was back in the chair I’d first met him in, probably an hour ago. I was still clutching my laptop and my Bible. I sat down and smiled — so far as I know, he had not been privy to any of my exchanges with The Hypocrite.
I explained my genuine concern that bad things might be happening to the Bible and that I had a video on my laptop, all set up for him to watch, and which would explain my concerns better than I could. As I did with The Hypocrite, I suggested he go into the bus, sit down and watch it. I added that I really needed help with this. Counsel. I was in distress, I said. (My impression was that the Amish are supposed to help those in need. And I was in need. More or less. Okay, maybe not in distress.)
Wouldn’t do it. Said he wanted to enjoy the beach or some such. I can tell you, this deflated me way more than The Hypocrite’s insane ramblings. I can’t say that I was surprised, though.
Still working on infrared imagery.
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Regarding the St Luke verses — which are obviously saying that homosexuals can go to heaven like everyone else, a concept completely foreign to what the Scriptures purport to say (notwithstanding all the other blatant contradictions) – I have seen/heard many serious Bible-believers say that the original KJV (not the new, ME Bible) actually reads:
‘A man and a woman in bed together…’ and ‘Two women grinding grain…’ (not ‘grinding together)
To those who would leave comments that they are disappointed that someone of my pedigree would believe in bull shit like the ME – if you are really honest in your claim to be critical thinkers – I suggest you really give the Biblical issues a serious look. For me, these changes are different from the ones in popular culture, in that many of them are not random, but rather are sly and purposefully demeaning, like the references in St Luke. (And hence the ‘which/witch’ possible homonym, although I agree it’s a bit of a stretch. On the other hand, those bastards are like that. See my posts on The Most Dangerous Book for how subtle they can get with their imagery. )
It doesn’t matter if you believe in the divine provenance of the Scriptures or not (I don’t). It’s no different from the occultisms I’ve pointed out in the events of 9/11/01: What’s important is what the PTB believe.
Another news pic from last year. I’m 95% sure that’s David, closest to the camera.
Okay. Enough. One last thing. I did a little searching about the Amish and this part of Texas. Found out that after the hurricane in 2017, a bunch of Amish from up north came down to help clean up and rebuild. Just showed up with tools and so forth (they are great craftsmen) and their wives and kids and all pitched in. For months.
David’s group was among those who came to help. I know this because I found a photo from a local newspaper from the time and he is in it. But my point is not that David (and his folk) are good people, although they clearly are. My point is more along the lines of how Evil can triumph when good men do nothing.
Allan
I’m sure The Hypocrite was not amongst those who came down to help. His thinking was probably along the lines of ‘If there was a hurricane, it was God’s will.’ Maybe someone had to go, like the non-virgin who needed stoning to death, for the sake of the long run.
Looks like I’m going to have to ban someone. Right. Eric. He’s wasting too much of your (and my) valuable time. Frankly, I think he’s pretty much lost his nut.
(He also cancelled his $3.25 monthly donation, which puts me in the red each month, what with the WordPress fee — I’m still paying for about 4,000 subscribers, even tho I’m down to about 100 who actually seem to pay attention. It one of you out there would like to help out and pick up Eric’s slack – so I’m not actually losing money with each post — the donation thingee is on the sidebar. $3.25 is all it is.)
What the fuck did Eric consume? I want to avoid it;)
He’s struggling internally with the fact that reality isn’t what it appears to be and he’s shutting it off . I went through this about a year ago with some personnel testing which resulted in me thinking i was losing my mind. Now I think everybody else is crazy.
I don’t believe in ME or the 9/11 conspiracy crap… Which seems aggravating to some people. Meh, too bad.
Hi Eric, that’s incorrect I haven’t made any comments on examples of ME at all so you can’t accuse me of dissonance in fact I have only being open to ME due to what’s been coming out of Science and quantum mechanics which actually supports the idea, no?
By the way, in the matter of men breast feeding, there is another, indirect, reference at Job 21:24:
His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow.
This is a good example of what some Bible scholars (folks who have committed it to memory, chapter and verse) believe to be a ‘supernatural’ change. And it’s an example of why I see the bible changes as different from pop culture changes. Like, say, ‘No, I am your father.’ I mean, who cares? As I say, many of the Bible changes are demeaning and contradictory and mocking, at least to those who see it as the word of God. I mean, there’s now a passage that has Jesus wearing a bra.
Yes, Eric, you are gone. We already know that. But i suspect there is more to come…
As many hours as I need?! That’s rich: Good riddance.
It doesn’t really matter whether you are a lunatic or a spook, you aren’t worth anybody’s time. Did you find this emoticon in the Bible? 🖕
Good riddance indeed
Mennonites would ride a bus and look like Amish. They are like a light version of Amish. They are the ones that own the vacuum cleaners that the Amish ladies borrow, even though they are not supposed to. At least according to one of my old bosses. She grew up Mennonite in Pennsylvania. 3 mile island really fucked up their perfect genes.
Thanks for the info. I do recall referring to them as ‘Amish’ in front of David and The Hypocrite and neither corrected me. Anyway, it’s not that important. I just found it amusing that a bus full of Bible folk pulled up right next to me on this 20 mile beach.
As I’ve said before, ‘What are the odds?’
signs of intellegent design;)
I think they got that all the time. I think they get sick of, “I’m not Amish, I’m Mennonite.” “What is a Mennonite?”
Interestingly, she was married to a black man from the same area. They would always call cars, “buggies.” I’m not sure if he was Amish or Mennonite. Neither one was practicing. They were both my bosses.
I predict that March will come in like a wolf this year.
Funny!
It has always been so. My father was an Elder in the RLDS church, which used “the Inspired Version’ of the bible, he received a KJ version back in the late 70’s and after comparing the two, he quit the church. He found the “inspired” version had been altered in order to support the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine of Covenant’s. The Deceiver has been at it for some time. What were those German-Amish doing using an English Bible anyway?
There are hundreds if not thousands of different translations of the Bible, but no original, so it is all a “simulacra”. You might want to go back to the Greek or Aramaic text and see if St. Luke was really talking about gays and lesbians or just how to tax people.
There is a line of thinking that the Bible is “God’s Law” so you should be reading it using a legal dictionary for definitions, the older the better. Changes the meaning considerably, most words/terms in “legalese” mean something different from what they mean in normal english. Clint Richardson has done a lot of work on this.
Clint and I have crossed swords, altho I think we agree re Jan Irvin. Do you have a particular link for Clint’s relevant work?
Mandela effect: Our place in the universe has changed: Jim Stone
It in fact has not changed, ONLY THE RECORDS have been tweaked. Why?
In this three minute Youtube video from a long time ago (,videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t51Ei496sso) Carl Sagan points to where the solar neighborhood was in the galaxy more than 20 years ago, before revisionists changed it. At around the time revisionists changed “where we were” in the universe, they also demoted Pluto and dropped the solar system down to 8 planets.
FACT: The solar system has 9 planets, and we really are where Carl Sagan points to. Watch the video, and then compare it to where they say we are now. The current version is BUNK, and it is a scam, not a timeline shift or anything else, because if it was not a scam, this old school video that says where we are would not exist and the books that record our real location would also not exist. Someone obviously ripped this off an old VHS that could not be re-written.
If you can’t watch the video, Carl Sagan points to where this reference, from 1997 – when Pluto was still a planet, – says the earth is but his model is a lot better than this.
The revisionists, who are trying to destroy all knowledge, now say the earth is located here: (insert photo here)
When you search for images of earth’s location in the galaxy, there are now people pointing everywhere, rather than where the earth really is. I remember when I was a kid, I knew we were on the outside edge of the outermost portion of a spiral arm, which perfectly explains why you can see the galaxy as a band across the sky, (the milky way) and looking the other way, you see the total darkness of space, with no indication there is anything there at all. If we really were more towards the inside, the “milky way” would not be a band across the sky, it would be everywhere, (or at least you’d see something similar in more than one direction)
The problem with them deleting Pluto and moving us to a new location in the Milky Way is that there are still plenty of hard copies of where we are in print, and no one who is into stars will throw a star book away. So there are conflicts now (there were not before, a couple years ago) but now when you search images, some people are scanning old books and calling bullshit.
Also, it is not as if new tech changed where we are, even mundane amateur astronomy gear is good enough to allow people to figure out where in the galaxy we are. This did not change because someone discovered something new. What we are witnessing with this “change” is an overt effort to erase all the great discoveries of Western Civilization.
If you really want to see it clearly, watch the Carl Sagan video we are on the outside outside OUTSIDE edge of the galaxy.
And it has to be that way, because towards the center there are too many supernovas, black hole X-ray storms and gamma ray bursters that would wipe out life on earth before anything was able to get started. We will be forever stuck to the outskirts of galaxies because the inner portions of galaxies are NOT the place to be. They are loaded with too many hazards.
I viewed the Sagan video and do find it interesting, in the sense that we have ‘moved’, or so it would seem. Others will say that we just corrected a mistake. Who knows? But good point. (The Pluto thing is a matter of nomenclature, not the ME.)
Ugh, you have photos of the Amish. Now you’ll NEVER think you could be wrong about anything, since I pointed out the rarity of this event and said that you were full of shit. That’s like 50% of the Amish in Texas in your photo right there. Weird.
That’s what I get for half-reading your crap.
You…are wrong about ME. And if you’re too hard headed to actually debate people and listen to evidence, then it’s not worth our time to be here. You can live in your own little confirmation bias bubble. It sucks. I hope you’re just being hard headed and not actually intentionally misdirecting. But either way, it’s a deal breaker for anyone to read this blog. It’s really a shame. You broke my heart Allan Weisbecker! Just kidding, but yeah…bye.
You accuse me of… what?… deceit or lunacy or whatever… then have to admit you didn’t even read the post! Looks like I have The Hypocrite Jr. here. (You’ve used up your space on this post, by the way, so shut up. I’ll delete any more ramblings.)
I fully admit that I didn’t read your drivel in the first place because you showed your true colors in the comments to the last post for being the spook that you are. It is sad that you are pushing this Mandela misdirection and the vast majority of your commenters don’t even agree with you! You suck at this misdirection thing Allan.
Bite me. Go ahead and delete whatever the hell you want to delete. You suck at this misdirection thing and nobody here is buying it.
I’ve never met Christians who would act or respond this way [I don’t know any Amish] , but those people seem to be programmed out of any independent thought. It’s a sad way to go through life, irrespective of whatever skills or benevolences they may have.
Keep in mind that it was only one real ‘elder’ (David) that I talked to. Who knows how others would respond. The Hypocrite is a separate issue.
I see this as I do with ‘9/11 deniers’. It’s more a matter of believing whatever ‘everyone else’ expects you to believe. A matter of the commitment to follow the evidence wherever it leads… or not.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Jeremiah 17:9-10
“and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing.
They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
2 Thessalonians 2: 10-12.
❤️❤️
I wish people would quit quoting scripture to make a point: You can find a chapter and verse to say ANYTHING you want, never mind possible MEs. I was looking for this one:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
That’s Jesus speaking. What happened to the various ‘turn the other cheeks’ and ‘forgive’ and so forth? (I should point out that several bible experts claim that this one has been changed and it never said ‘slay them’.)
and right below that one (in the search list) is this one:
And though they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I command the sword, and it shall slay them: and I will set mine eyes upon them for evil, and not for good.
and my favorite:
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. [began killing, i presume]
Also, to Kimberlie: I sprung on The Hypocrite the thought experiment about the Amazonians who never heard of Jesus, asking where they go at death, etc., and he said the same thing you did. That they have radios and the internet. He even quoted Jesus saying that for people who never hear of him, it’s their fault.
Mmmmm. Okay. Does make one reflect on the provenance of Good and Evil… its real meaning.
Hi Pearl. Good to hear from you, but as I say, if I wanted to disagree with you I could easily find a slew of passages that say the opposite of what you said. This sort of takes the wind of any points made, IMO. But you know me (she really does).
Ahhhh Allan …. nothing but love for you.
And… I know a God loves you!!!!
Where the chances? The Mennonites/Amish came right to you!? 🙏❤️
Allan,
With regard to Luke 17 it appears you did not finish the chapter. Christ never says the ones that are taken are going to heaven. Read the next couple verses. The Disciples are actually smart enough to ask where are they being taken? His answer in the NIV “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”
In the end times it may not be the good that are taken first.
necessary follow up…. Can homo’s go to heaven? Sure. Everyone has fallen short and needs salvation through Christ. That was the design all along.
I think ‘other experts’ will disagree with you here, but the point may be (again) that you can interpret many verses any which way, if you stretch meanings.
In my 1911 KJV of the Bible, Luke 17, 34-37, It states: “34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field ; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord ? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the Eagles be gathered together. ”
The King James version was cobbled together from the Protestant Bible of Scotland and several Greek , Latin and Aramaic versions, mostly heavily adapted from Emperor Constantine’s personally edited version of Greek and Aramaic texts ; in part to please his “Christian” wife, and to better persecute the people who did not follow his personal view of the new State Ordered Religion of Christianity.
The christian Bible has been edited and re-written (for clarity sake it is said) countless times, but the majority sort of agree with each other.
They contain the myths of Saul of Tarsus (known as Paul), who never knew the one the Greeks called Jesus( The Greek Jews could not wrap their tongues around his Aramaic Jewish name). Saul of Tarsus was appointed by Rome (Saul being a Roman citizen and born a Jew) to destroy the political movement connected with the Christ Movement of the Jews in Palestine. (Judea was part of Palestine at this time in history.) I think “St. Paul ” did a good job of re-writing the history for his time.
It goes on still.
The Council of Nicaea decided exactly what was going to be put in the bible and what wasn’t, and it sure wasn’t an act of benevolence towards the common man. I’m guessing the changes that are taking place (deliberately) are to conform to, and work alongside, their sexual agenda. And if what Allan says is true and they’ve got Jesus wearing a bra, then the transgender agenda too. Corruption all the way.
https://netbible.org/bible/Luke+17 This translation (Net 2) states two people in bed, two women grinding grain. The page allows you to chose other biblical translations, those being ESV, MSG, KJV, HCSB, NASB and ISV from the drop down box. No wonder people are confused.
Boo, that’s not the point here, is it?
I’m not sure Allan. All I know is that corruption, ongoing and relentless, is their weapon. The fact that there are many versions in and of the bible is just one in their plentiful ammunition. Who and what to believe? They have legions of spooks on so many levels, not to mention the utter idiots who buy in to this fakery and do the work of the filth FOR FREE. I don’t believe that words are ‘magically’ changing (in front of someone’s eyes as they watch, in real time….damned nut cases/attention seekers), it’s just been done deliberately over time. Why are there so many versions?! For what purpose? Surely for purposes to confound, confuse and obfuscate. You can be sure of one thing though – there is one so called book of ‘G-d’ ( the ‘o’ is left out purposely) that NEVER changes, ever. At all. Now why is that?
Ps; maybe I’ve gone off at a tangent. What I believe is that rather than buying into their energy-sucking games of ‘how’, (of which there are myriad ways), we should concentrate on the reasons ‘why’. From where did the ‘why’ originate?
They hate us, they find us utterly contemptible. They mock and derise us on a daily basis. That’s a given. They sacrifice us, rape and kill our most innocent. For a species to hate and sacrifice our children, what kind of monsters are they??
They need our energy, and we give it each time they come up with something like this. Anyways, those are my thoughts, so apologies that I’ve gone off subject.
The hypocrite thinks he knows everything because his faith is so weak-it takes courage to admit that not everything is knowable. Scientists are the same way-they think they know all and become attached to theories and resist contrary facts that appear.
Technically, isn’t the faith too strong, not too weak in your examples?
Hold on, though. I am skeptical.
Not necessarily about whether or not things have actually and deliberately been changed, bible or otherwise, rather about if they could pull it off, which already seems to be so, to cause this kind of confusion. Kind of like a LARP thing.
Do be skeptical, but point your skepticism at the right target: Allan’s wrangling with “the Mandela effect”, which is not thought to be deliberate.
Afaik no one’s come up with a method where any of the (apparent) changes *could* have been deliberate. Not everyone misremembers the same thing the same way: some people remember Mandela having died in the 90s and some don’t; my neighbor laughed about the “lion and lamb” thing, saying, “Everyone gets that wrong.”
I’m not taking sides here, because I have never read an entire bible, and likely I never will. But isn’t it possible that “lion” is mentioned instead of “wolf” simply because of where a certain bible was printed and processed?
I can imagine that wolf would be strange in regions where they know of no wolves but rather of lions.
“Who” “which”, perhaps a wrong translation (in countries where English is not the first language), nothing more. All the time people say and write “that” when instead it should be “who”.
Correct People “who”… Things “that”…
But go online and quite easily you will find internet users write and say people “that”. In fact my friend is a retired school teacher and she had to correct her students, concerning this, all the time.
Eric, you’re about to experience the ‘Allan Effect’…. Are you ready?
Allan~ Go ahead and taze Eric. Zap him! Phaze him out of his Monkey Fluffed mind! Show him what the Allan Effect does!
(I couldn’t resist!)
Have to say I’m in agreement with you on this ME effect bs. Find your explanations very reasonable and logical.
It’s very wrong for a blog that is suppose to shine some light on lies we’ve been indoctrinated to believe to be true is unwilling to listen to a point of view, that tries with logical to explain.
To say your wasting his time and our is unfair to you. If it wasn’t for your explanations, would consider my time spent reading this thread a waste of my time.
Rachel, I refuse to allow someone to continually insult me on my own blog, often with 8 or 10 comments in one thread that ignore my salient points and merely repeat the same theory over and over (meanwhile denying ad hockery). It is 100% obvious that nothing could change this guy’s mind. Nothing. I asked him what he would think if suddenly Moby Dick was never titled as such, but now is ‘The White Whale’ in all references. He didn’t answer. Just one example.
Have you really looked into this subject? I have, which is my ‘job’ here. The tentative conclusions I’ve come to were not arrived at casually.
Eric, are you suggesting that you believe that the people (or whoever) at the top of the food chain wouldn’t even try such an operation? And is it far-fetched that if they’d try it that they’d simultaneously try several different versions? Are the rest of us wrong that there are powerful entities doing their best to confuse us and divide us?
You sound like you’re either representing them or perhaps you’re one of their biggest chumps. Not sure which, but I’d bet the promised Allan Effect will sort you out.
Stop cherry picking, folks! Please. And commenting with ‘a little information.’ People don’t bother with comments when there are too many and not relevant.
Interesting post, really.
That reminds me on Dmitri Khalezov, and his theory about 9/11. Not that I want to discuss that again … but he spends many pages of his document describing how he traced a very similar thing. The backward change of the phrase “ground zero” (or it’s definition), both online and in printed (expensive) encyclopaedias.
I have no trouble to suspect some forces might wish to back-edit religious texts. I’m convinced that happened before. Nothing more ridiculous than the claim that such a text was “given by god” to his followers.
I once had a Fund.Christ. couple tell me that Satan changed the words in mid-air between their speaking the words and my hearing the words, and that’s why they were unable to “save” me. That would have been almost 40 years ago. So I guess a Bible being changed is not such a crazy notion to some folks, and maybe David didn’t want to look at a satanically-adulterated book — ?
I’m disappointed there are no comments. This was a really interesting post.
Shouldn’t It be “whom art in heaven?” Hahaha. People are frantically going through their bibles. But, but my memory is perfect…
I apologize for all my nonsensical comments on this post. Allan, specially to you I humbly apologize. You, sir, are a prince of a guy and possibly a full-blown genius.
https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/children_lord_teach_child.html
On this page – top, left hand side are all the different versions of the prayer. Bill Bean is a spook.
I apologize for all my nonsensical comments on this post. Allan, specially to you I humbly apologize. You, sir, are a prince of a guy and possibly a full-blown genius.
He ‘outgonzos’ Hunter S. Thompson apparently. UPI stated this on his book entitled Cosmic Banditos.
Bean may or may not be a spook but re that link: I already said that what bothers me is the change (from what I recall) of Who to Which and On to In. Anyway, cherry-picking does not good. When there is just too much stuff you have to open your mind to other possibilities. I’m leaning heavily towards something very strange going on, beyond the usual psy op. But I can’t say I KNOW what’s what.
I don’t know why they keep changing it (or who decides that it be changed) but it’s on that page for all to see. Problem is we have idiots stating they’ve sat and actually ‘watched’ it change right in front of their eyes, which is downright bullshit. I despise liars. Spooks lie and that’s their job, but for so-called normies to lie, attention seeking little shits that they are, just makes me want to vomit all over them. It lessens and makes a mockery of the real ‘magicking games’ that’re been used against the majority right now. Allan, you must see the ‘magic-bean guy is a spook-a nasty, dark one at that.
That’s actually a god point, Chris, keeping in mind that the translators are highly qualified scholars. ANY error, grammatical or spelling or weird emoticons or whatever, should be suspect.
How dare you accuse me of making god points 😉
Funny. I thought YOU made the ‘god point’ slip. It was me!